[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

y'know who I feel especially sorry for? straight white male bigots
they're not allowed to feel superior to people of colour, homosexuals, women..
I mean they're running out of people they can feel superior to by the mere fact they're born straight, white and male
no wonder they're bitter

what on earth has that to do with this thread?



please address the topic, you can fish for likes on the chat thread if your feel the urge

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by arista

Jordan B. Peterson.
you need his book.

Nobody needs that overstuffed egotists book.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Nobody needs that overstuffed egotists book.

It is not
he has saved thousands of young men

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I want a caricature of a white closet racist, where do I look? LT any ideas?

Originally Posted by Alf

How cute, I want one.

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Even though his racism isn’t closeted in the least.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Jordan B. Peterson.
you need his book.

don't think so, he's a revisionist dressed up as defender of masculinity

what we need is a new order with equality for all, men are not and should not feel threatened by that

not surprised he's made a career, him and the whole trump/alt-right surge is all about holding on to the old privileges and superior status for white men

the societal change will continue, bc I don't believe it's driven by the left but it's a natural progression

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what on earth has that to do with this thread?



please address the topic, you can fish for likes on the chat thread if your feel the urge

why so antagonistic? it wasn't aimed at you, y'know

'twas an observation prompted by your thread
sorreh if you feel it's offtopic
kiss of peace, LT

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

don't think so, he's a revisionist dressed up as defender of masculinity

what we need is a new order with equality for all, men are not and should not feel threatened by that

not surprised he's made a career, him and the whole trump/alt-right surge is all about holding on to the old privileges and superior status for white men

the societal change will continue, bc I don't believe it's driven by the left but it's a natural progression

Sure
the Ch4HD news interview on YouTubeHD
in full is Utter Bliss.



He is not Alt Right
that was growing years before him.

[Twosugars]

Arista, afraid we have to agree to disagree
the fact he got the better of the lovely Kathy Newman is neither here or there

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Redway

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Even though his racism isn’t closeted in the least.

I'm not racist, I admire lots of people of different race from me and have many friends too, and I don't believe any race is superior in general.

A racist wouldn't think or say that..

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Arista, afraid we have to agree to disagree
the fact he got the better of the lovely Kathy Newman is neither here or there

Sure
But its a fair talk
Honest.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree about it being dangerous to attempt to erase the past but these belong in a museum with proper educational context attached; not still out being bought and sold privately.

There's no end of them in auctions there always has been i'm afraid - you can't cancel history .

[arista]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

There's no end of them in auctions there always has been i'm afraid - you can't cancel history .

Except in China

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not now its isnt and back then I doubt that was the intention - it was a novelty item like a black face would have been to 99.99% people

It was made to sell

"I doubt that was the intention"

What a convincing argument about what "maybe" was intended back then despite all of the racism we know went and still goes on.

It was made to sell. Yes, and what? What bearing does that have on whether it's racist or not?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

It's going to be outdated given these are antiques, its in the definition of the word.

I don't think we should be destroying or wiping out these things. To me it highlights the progress that has been made since those times, and it's a good reminder of how things used to be.

There's a difference between erasing the past and moving on from selling novelty "n" items IMO.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think it's easy to say that as a white person as well though, when these antiques are basically mocking black people

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

All of which is German military memorabilia LT... not Nazi. I'm going to assume you know that there's a difference.

If it's German and military and dates between 1934 and 1945, it's Nazi.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by arista

feck me £65
over priced

[Marsh.]

Depends entirely what this "Nazi memorabilia" entails.

It's also a private home and a public shop.

These things are on sale, advertised as "N*****". Clearly not acceptable.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Depends entirely what this "Nazi memorabilia" entails.

It's also a private home and a public shop.

These things are on sale, advertised as "N*****". Clearly not acceptable.

Who are any of us to judge what other people collect. One of my Dad's friends collects Nazi uniform insignia and cap badges. The other collects anything to do with the Nazi party. I can assure you that neither of those people are Nazis. It's Just like people collecting Roman artefacts... although the Romans slaughtered millions. Who should we run our collections past who can judge whether we're a racist or not?