[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Or maybe it was their initial goal to get to the UK? Who knows. Certainly not any of us.

Anyway, I'm not here to do the whole discussion thing again, I did it previously in this thread and it's never ending. Just here to show daily support and love to people who have terrible lives and made it to where they wanted to be with the hope to live a happier life. Love love love.

That's economic then, not asylum, lets call it what it is rather than wrapping it up in the Asylum blanket. Also it doesn't say much for the French economy if they can't make a life there, but that' s another story.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Or maybe it was their initial goal to get to the UK? Who knows. Certainly not any of us.

Anyway, I'm not here to do the whole discussion thing again, I did it previously in this thread and it's never ending. Just here to show daily support and love to people who have terrible lives and made it to where they wanted to be with the hope to live a happier life. Love love love.

Absolutely, really thought provoking post from you there.

I despair for the UK, particularly England now.

It's really concerning some of the intolerant attitude to, as you near indicate, those just hoping for a possibly better life and future.

Young fitter individuals, would be able to work harder and easier to help their families in the future by earning initially.

If I were an asylum seeker myself, I doubt I'd now be looking at England as a land of opportunity anymore.
With some of the really hostile attitudes directed at them, no matter their circumstances or why they're seeking asylum.

The UK governments, (plural, all parties of government), like messing up in other Countries, however not so keen on sorting the mess out we help in part create there however.

[Cherie]

The last thing I will say on this is it's cheering on the traffickers, these guys are paying to risk they lives and being sold a dummy, in reality they will come here, be processed, and be returned, it's the trafficers who are laughing all the way to the bank selling dreams that do not exist

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Or maybe it was their initial goal to get to the UK? Who knows. Certainly not any of us.

Anyway, I'm not here to do the whole discussion thing again, I did it previously in this thread and it's never ending. Just here to show daily support and love to people who have terrible lives and made it to where they wanted to be with the hope to live a happier life. Love love love.

The same folks saying they should stay in France wouldn't be saying that if they lived in France. Then it would be that they should have stayed in Italy or Greece. The moveable goalposts.

[arista]

[15 life jackets were counted at the spot where they
came ashore suggesting others may have slipped away.
Eleven illegal migrants including mother and teenage son
are rounded up by police near Dover town centre
after arriving in dinghy which was discovered next to port]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wn-centre.html

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

[15 life jackets were counted at the spot where they
came ashore suggesting others may have slipped away.
Eleven illegal migrants including mother and teenage son
are rounded up by police near Dover town centre
after arriving in dinghy which was discovered next to port]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wn-centre.html

Can't be right. People in this thread keep telling us it's only men crossing the channel.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but the people coming over in boats aren't doing that are they? they want to get into the UK system bypassing legitimate asylum routes. Everyone in this thread knows this, so I can't for the life of me understand why people are defending them

Youtube video

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

[15 life jackets were counted at the spot where they
came ashore suggesting others may have slipped away.
Eleven illegal migrants including mother and teenage son
are rounded up by police near Dover town centre
after arriving in dinghy which was discovered next to port]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wn-centre.html

Yay! Welcome and congrats for making it!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Yay! Welcome and congrats for making it!

You need to take them back/

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's economic then, not asylum, lets call it what it is rather than wrapping it up in the Asylum blanket. Also it doesn't say much for the French economy if they can't make a life there, but that' s another story.

The benefits available to asylum seekers in France is just over double what they can get here.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

You need to take them back/

They want to be in the UK, let them be happy and build a nice future there.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Can't be right. People in this thread keep telling us it's only men crossing the channel.

I think by people you mean me, ...what is the percentage of women, elderly folk and children crossing?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The benefits available to asylum seekers in France is just over double what they can get here.

Whats your point?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think by people you mean me, ...what is the percentage of women, elderly folk and children crossing?

I have no idea, but neither does anyone else in this thread.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Whats your point?

It can't be purely economic if they are passing up double the benefits to leave there.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It can't be purely economic if they are passing up double the benefits to leave there.

Nah not buying that

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nah not buying that

If someone left a job to join another company for half the salary, then said it was for economic reasons, what wold you think?

[The Slim Reaper]

[Ammi]

...it may be that some asylum seekers have relatives living in the U.K. already...which would indicate this being their destination country...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If someone left a job to join another company for half the salary, then said it was for economic reasons, what wold you think?

I would think there is something not right with the story, I assume they are leaving France as they have not been given status as asylum seekers, if i'ts that good they are leaving for a reason, either they have family members here in the UK or they will be deported by the French

[Captain.Remy]

Let's not assume what are people's motives to do what they are doing, please. It can be one, many, neither already mentionned, all of the above etc So let's be kind.

[Cherie]

I'm very kind

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

They want to be in the UK, let them be happy and build a nice future there.

No Future.
No Money.


It's cheaper to pay France
to take them back.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by arista

No Future.
No Money.


It's cheaper to pay France
to take them back.

Why just France though, if I follow your logic? They don't come FROM France, they're for someplace else and crossed other european countries to get there. So that doesn't make sense. Just be tolerant and open-minded, it's not that hard.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Why just France though, if I follow your logic? They don't come FROM France, they're for someplace else and crossed other European countries to get there. So that doesn't make sense. Just be tolerant and open-minded, it's not that hard.

We will soon return to them France
as that the last place they came from.
And The UK will have to pay France