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Old 15-11-2018, 11:42 AM #26
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How people can have any confidence in the Conservative Party anymore is puzzling. During Cameron's day they seemed fine, since he left they've just been an absolute joke.
Maybe the Labour party making them look good?
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How people can have any confidence in the Conservative Party anymore is puzzling. During Cameron's day they seemed fine, since he left they've just been an absolute joke.

Yes it is Strange
she is still saying NO 2nd Vote
and she will go on with the current deal
in her time - assuming she can get her MP's to back it?

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Maybe the Labour party making them look good?
While the Labour Party does have its many problems, the Tories have been really outdoing them, Brexit could have been something workable if there wasn't constant infighting, now it's looking like either we **** over this country for generations with a no deal or we cancel Brexit.
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Well one good thing from the chaos of presenting this agreement is that it has got the truly heartless and awful Esther McVey to resign.
Good riddance to that waste of space.
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While the Labour Party does have its many problems, the Tories have been really outdoing them, Brexit could have been something workable if there wasn't constant infighting, now it's looking like either we **** over this country for generations with a no deal or we cancel Brexit.
And Labour, meanwhile has refused to deal with its deep and ingrained anti-Semitism. And that aside, not sure Corbyn would have been able to do any better. May was handed a poison chalice by Cameron. He would have been more respected if he'd stuck around and dealt with the chaos he created.

And a no deal isn't the terrifying prospect as the scaremongers would have us believe. One in seven German cars are bought in the UK. And there's French wine and cheese, and cars, same with Italy... are all those exporters going to sit quietly by while we don't import their stuff?
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And Labour, meanwhile has refused to deal with its deep and ingrained anti-Semitism. And that aside, not sure Corbyn would have been able to do any better. May was handed a poison chalice by Cameron. He would have been more respected if he'd stuck around and dealt with the chaos he created.

And a no deal isn't the terrifying prospect as the scaremongers would have us believe. One in seven German cars are bought in the UK. And there's French wine and cheese, and cars, same with Italy... are all those exporters going to sit quietly by while we don't import their stuff?
While I agree with what you say about Labour, it doesn't lessen the absolute ****show the Tories have become.

There's already been reports of many manufacturers either pulling out of the UK or threatening to, a no deal Brexit will be very bad for the state of this country.
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While I agree with what you say about Labour, it doesn't lessen the absolute ****show the Tories have become.

There's already been reports of many manufacturers either pulling out of the UK or threatening to, a no deal Brexit will be very bad for the state of this country.
dont forget that Parliament voted like 6 to 1 to have the referendum so..
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While I agree with what you say about Labour, it doesn't lessen the absolute ****show the Tories have become.

There's already been reports of many manufacturers either pulling out of the UK or threatening to, a no deal Brexit will be very bad for the state of this country.
None of the party's including labour would have done any better. When there are such strong divided views and an intransigent EU, it's just not possible to get an *acceptable by the majority* agreement

And for those calling for another referendum, how on earth is that going to bring about a resolution. Apart from the democratic mess it puts the country in, if people were divided and still are on a simple in/out choice, how on earth are they to choose on customs unions, backstop borders and such like .... its not going to happen.
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Give May her due, she is probably even more Iron Lady than Thatcher, she is unflinching isn't she, at least she believes in what she is selling
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Give May her due, she is probably even more Iron Lady than Thatcher, she is unflinching isn't she, at least she believes in what she is selling

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Looks like Raab is going for the PM job

Some think that.
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Gove to be the new Brexit Sec? will he stab Boris in the back again by pushing though a fudge
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While I agree with what you say about Labour, it doesn't lessen the absolute ****show the Tories have become.

There's already been reports of many manufacturers either pulling out of the UK or threatening to, a no deal Brexit will be very bad for the state of this country.
The whole Brexit deal has been handled really badly, I agree with that. But there's been a certain amount of bullying, piss-taking and childishness from the EU. Barnier and his cronies don't want to allow Britain a decent Brexit because of other countries, disillusioned with the HUGE, slow, costly beast the EU has become and who would receive a "leave" vote if the had their own referendum. So yes, I do agree it's been handled badly by the Tories and in particular by Theresa May... but the EU doesn't come out of this covered in glory.

And again, a no deal Brexit will hurt... but not as badly as we think.

That;'s my view anyway.
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Give May her due, she is probably even more Iron Lady than Thatcher, she is unflinching isn't she, at least she believes in what she is selling
Don't agree with May, but I do agree with this post.
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LBC should be good this afternoon
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All this sabotage

She just finished
a long session Live in Parliament.


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She just finished
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Still standing
What a woman, and not one of her snivelling MPs put their hand up when they were asked if they back her
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I feel sorry for her at this point with these scummy rebels trying to overthrow ha.
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