[Underscore]

Can we just clear up that America didn't actually elect Trump? The states did, geography did, the system did.

He did not win the popular vote.

He does not have a PV mandate.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Can we just clear up that America didn't actually elect Trump? The states did, geography did, the system did.

He did not win the popular vote.

He does not have a PV mandate.

Thats the way it works in USA
Normal for them

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats the way it works in USA
Normal for them

Oh yeah definitely - and that's fine.

But I just don't agree with when people say 'America elected him' as in the people did.

[Marsh.]

This thread has taught me I need to get painting a wall in order to feel like I have contributed to society.

[Denver]

He will be out next year

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He will be out next year

No chance, he will wipe the floor with the UnDemocrats...

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Sticks

No chance, he will wipe the floor with the UnDemocrats...

Everyone is turning against him even some states that voted him

[Sticks]

That is not what I see in my Facebook feed from my church contacts over there, he would serve a third term if only the constitution allowed it, so loved is he by them.

The UnDemocrat president Bill Clinton once said "It's the Economy Stupid". If you look at the US economy, it has soared under Trump.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I have heard testimony from my "Friends" on Facebook who live near the border, and they have told me how vital it is for security.

Only if you live on the border can you pronounce whether it is needed or not. My contacts do and have.

A congressman, Will Hurd, representing the largest district across the border (800 miles) has rubbished a lot of the claims about the wall and he's a republican no less. He endorses a 'smart wall' which basically translates into more equipment to monitor what they've already got as currently, response times are too long to do anything about it but would be quicker with better equipment in place. It's a cheaper option that will actually help the situation rather than just help Trump's ego.

Your contacts seem very much like they've given into Trump's imaginary crisis. The stats do not lie, there is no crisis, there's no need for a wall, just modernise what they've already got.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Sticks

That is not what I see in my Facebook feed from my church contacts over there, he would serve a third term if only the constitution allowed it, so loved is he by them.

The UnDemocrat president Bill Clinton once said "It's the Economy Stupid". If you look at the US economy, it has soared under Trump.

Incorrect, he has merely profitted from the work of presidents and governments before him. He hasn't done anything to help the economy, he has simply reaped the crops from the seeds that Obama has planted.

Your friends seem quite deluded, I wouldn't take stock in anything they have to say if they aren't willing to acknowledge the realities of Trump's administration.