[bitontheslide]

The common narrative is that all 7 left because they couldn't work with the current labour party, for whatever reason. They are also correct in that british politics does have to move forward because what we have now isn't working. It doesn't mean they have an answer, they are just highlighting a problem that everyone is aware of. People do want more choice than what is currently available. Whether that means the majority of MP's become independent or whatever, who knows, but it is high time things changed

[Toy Soldier]

The entire system needs changed to be quite honest, it's not just that the main parties are a shambles, the voting patterns and political leanings of the general population are simply diversifying to the point where "First Past The Post" is no longer fit for purpose. We need an entirely different electoral system that involves some variety of PR.

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why doesn't Corbyn just go,he must know he is not a popular leader,Labour might do really well if he went.

Quite. He lost the last election. Doing less worse than expected doesn't make him a worthy leader.

Labour will lose the next election if he stays, no matter how big a mess the Tories make.

[arista]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

Quite. He lost the last election. Doing less worse than expected doesn't make him a worthy leader.

Labour will lose the next election if he stays, no matter how big a mess the Tories make.

Yes he lost the Last Election
but made the Conservatives
then had to buy the DUP 's help
as it was a close Hung Parliament.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes he lost the Last Election
but made the Conservatives
then had to buy the DUP 's help
as it was a close Hung Parliament.

There was a small window of time when Corbyn looked like a credible leader - if the snap election had been instant, Labour would have been wiped out. If it was held now (without the previous one having happened) they'd take a beating.

But somehow, Corbyn grew a shiny halo that just lasted long enough for the snap election to not totally suck for him.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The entire system needs changed to be quite honest, it's not just that the main parties are a shambles, the voting patterns and political leanings of the general population are simply diversifying to the point where "First Past The Post" is no longer fit for purpose. We need an entirely different electoral system that involves some variety of PR.

We had a Vote on that
Clegg set that up
It Failed.


The 7 MP's are not enough

This Helps the Conswervatives

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

There was a small window of time when Corbyn looked like a credible leader - if the snap election had been instant, Labour would have been wiped out. If it was held now (without the previous one having happened) they'd take a beating.

But somehow, Corbyn grew a shiny halo that just lasted long enough for the snap election to not totally suck for him.

SDP all over again
These 7 back benches - do not matter




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Registered address:
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No London Office

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

But somehow, Corbyn grew a shiny halo that just lasted long enough for the snap election to not totally suck for him.

I'm pretty sure that "somehow" was the Tory party being in incompetent chaos with constant infighting and bickering, and a leader fighting for something that she was campaigning against a year earlier. It's not really a mystery .

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The common narrative is that all 7 left because they couldn't work with the current labour party, for whatever reason. They are also correct in that british politics does have to move forward because what we have now isn't working. It doesn't mean they have an answer, they are just highlighting a problem that everyone is aware of. People do want more choice than what is currently available. Whether that means the majority of MP's become independent or whatever, who knows, but it is high time things changed

Yes

I am looking forward to the
By Elections of all of them

Apart from 2
the rest are not known much.

[arista]

[Our economy is underperforming. Too many of us live in poverty, or struggle to make ends meet.]

Thats from the 7 MP's site
https://www.theindependent.group/

But its a Labour Line


They have no chance - Its a fecking farce
SDP all over again

[arista]

https://www.theindependent.group/donate/donate-1


Send your Money into these Losers
Starts at Ł5

[arista]

Its like a UKIP start up,
only they are all 7 of them , Remoaners

[bitontheslide]

I'm getting the impression that Arista is not entirely happy with this breakaway .... it's very subtle, but it's there none the less

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I'm getting the impression that Arista is not entirely happy with this breakaway .... it's very subtle, but it's there none the less

They are Pathetic
2017 Election
They all stood for Brexit.

I hate Chukka (New Labour)
as he was going to be a Leader
before Corbyn.
But was scared his White Wife
would leave him.
And then stood down



Also None of them are Brave enough for a By Election



This MP's Zone want a By Election
but he is one of the 7
and is Chicken

[LeatherTrumpet]

Only labour can be more unelectable than the current Tories

You couldn't make it up

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Only labour can be more unelectable than the current Tories

You couldn't make it up

This is why loads of Labour MP's are angry
as they will be out of power , even longer

[LeatherTrumpet]

The problem Labour have
is they have Marxist as a leader

Period

[Toy Soldier]

Honestly I reckon if the still had rubbery faced Ed as leader they'd be flying right now. Being a bit weird eating a sandwich and having a bad PR team in general isn't looking so bad, considering.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly I reckon if the still had rubbery faced Ed as leader they'd be flying right now. Being a bit weird eating a sandwich and having a bad PR team in general isn't looking so bad, considering.

i reckon if they had a banana in charge rather than Corbyn they would win an election

[Northern Monkey]

Good on em.

It was bound to happen.The current iteration of Labour don’t represent the values of many Labour voters.

Whether it takes off or not is another story.

I don’t think these seven would have done this on their own without having discussed it with other MP’s first.
There more than likely will be more to come.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly I reckon if the still had rubbery faced Ed as leader they'd be flying right now. Being a bit weird eating a sandwich and having a bad PR team in general isn't looking so bad, considering.

All is forgiven Ed!

[arista]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

All is forgiven Ed!

No one liked him
They wanted his Brother.

[arista]

and
a tweet Lewis Goodall LBC :
[Ian Dunt
‏Verified account @IanDunt
6h6 hours ago

If I was setting up a new centrist party I'd call it 'Feck The Lot Of You]


I changed a letter in the F word.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The problem Labour have
is they have Marxist as a leader

Period

Sure but he was Elected Twice

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

They are Pathetic
2017 Election
They all stood for Brexit.

I hate Chukka (New Labour)
as he was going to be a Leader
before Corbyn.
But was scared his White Wife
would leave him.
And then stood down



Also None of them are Brave enough for a By Election



This MP's Zone want a By Election
but he is one of the 7
and is Chicken

All well said arista.