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TUI must be crazy, their bookings are going to nosedive
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The Trouble is
all their money is in these new planes
that Travel Company has 5,
and soon they get a sixth.

If you have a flight booked and its that plane
you can not change it.
At this time,



[Australia becomes latest country to suspend Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft ]

https://news.sky.com/story/boeing-to...safer-11662753

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I'm flying with them to Bulgaria, Crete and I think Turkey (although that could be Jet2) this summer

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I'm flying with them to Bulgaria, Crete and I think Turkey (although that could be Jet2) this summer

Would you have still booked with what you know now....
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Me and my daughter are flying to Glasgow next week with Ryanair, I've been checking if they use those planes and I think they don't yet but have an order of them due next month, anyone know for sure? I think I'd cancel if they were using those planes
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Yes! There's no way of knowing if they were defo linked (although there's a chance)... at least now there should *hopefully* be some investigations going on and whatever it is whether it's a software fault or whatever is fixed immediately.

At the end of the day whatever plane you go on could go down, and it's not like TUI operate one set of aircraft anyway.
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Me and my daughter are flying to Glasgow next week with Ryanair, I've been checking if they use those planes and I think they don't yet but have an order of them due next month, anyone know for sure? I think I'd cancel if they were using those planes
The two planes that crashed were 737 MAX 8 variants. Ryanair have ordered 737 MAX 2.

They are different airframes, so it shouldn't really matter unless it's found it was a linked software fault.
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The two planes that crashed were 737 MAX 8 variants. Ryanair have ordered 737 MAX 2.

They are different airframes, so it shouldn't really matter unless it's found it was a linked software fault.
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Me and my daughter are flying to Glasgow next week with Ryanair, I've been checking if they use those planes and I think they don't yet but have an order of them due next month, anyone know for sure? I think I'd cancel if they were using those planes
Ryanair have ordered but not got them yet
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Yes! There's no way of knowing if they were defo linked (although there's a chance)... at least now there should *hopefully* be some investigations going on and whatever it is whether it's a software fault or whatever is fixed immediately.

At the end of the day whatever plane you go on could go down, and it's not like TUI operate one set of aircraft anyway.
Its a bit of a coincidence, the other thing is Boeing haven't sent the software update linked to the original crash yet which was promised, 4 months later....negligence!
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UK now has stopped any 737Max planes flying


https://news.sky.com/story/boeing-to...safer-11662753


So the TUI company are stuck
with 15 of them

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so hopefully now they will look into it and rectify it and i won't die in june
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The compensation the airlines will be looking to get off Boeing will be eyewatering I dread to think

The amount of flights that may have to be cancelled or delayed (15 planes in a budget airline will mean a lot of flights missed a day) eye watering
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The makers of the Titanic said it was unsinkable but looked what happened there, hate these cocky giant companies who always reject anything is their fault.
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Its a bit of a coincidence, the other thing is Boeing haven't sent the software update linked to the original crash yet which was promised, 4 months later....negligence!
That is true... If it is a software update hopefully it's rectified, thoroughly tested then the planes can be on their way.

Either way... Boeing have a lot to answer for
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The Boeing 737 is one of the safest and most reliable aircraft in the world, very much like trains on the tube, constantly worked maybe going about 4 flights a day or more with some airlines... My question is, why fix what's not broken?
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They changed the engine placement in the latest configuration for greater fuel efficiency. Unfortunately, this mean that the default flying position is now unstable unless software auto corrects it. So, if the software isn't doing what it should, the aircraft tends toward a stall.

People can blame the software if they like, but the under lying problem is in the design of the aircraft, driven by fuel efficiency.
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They changed the engine placement in the latest configuration for greater fuel efficiency. Unfortunately, this mean that the default flying position is now unstable unless software auto corrects it. So, if the software isn't doing what it should, the aircraft tends toward a stall.

People can blame the software if they like, but the under lying problem is in the design of the aircraft, driven by fuel efficiency.
This is crazy, how did it pass a safety test
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it's even more crazy when you realise that the way to take a plane out of a stall is to point the nose downward. So if the software over corrects, it puts the plane into a nose dive that the pilot can't do anything about
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This is crazy, how did it pass a safety test

They did months of tests - no problems
but 2 planes , one last year
& one now have proved the Technical system
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As the Pilot can not change it
This Ethiopian Pilot was a top qualified Pilot
he could not stop the controls taking over

Boeing Shares are going down fast
Computer Engineers Fecked up - FACT



787max Computer Error - Extreme Deaths

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