[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Didn't Neville watch Catona beat up a fan for no reason

Exactly but conveniently no points deductions were discussed at the time I bet even though it was one of the players that was getting violent.

Conveniently common sense seems to go out of the window when it comes to us.

[Mystic Mock]

Also this logic of collective punishment makes no sense either as nobody from the club was helping the fan attack Grealish so it would be incredibly harsh to dock points from the club when the club did nothing wrong.

It would be like punishing Mcdonald's when a fight breaks out in one of their Restaurants between two customers, it would make no logical sense to punish McDonald's, like it makes no logical sense to punish Birmingham over this.

Also are people trying to tell me that what that fan did was worse than what the Millwall fan did to the Everton fan in the FA Cup? Because going by the collective punishment argument shouldn't Millwall have a points deduction?

Also when Man Utd and Newcastle fans inevitably do something wrong I want Gary Neville and Alan Shearer to be the first to call for the “severe punishment needs to be done” argument like they've tried to fling at us, but I doubt that they'd say anything.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Should Arsenal get a points deduction then?

What have we done now

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Shaun

What have we done now

Didn't an Arsenal fan attack Smalling yesterday??

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Shaun

What have we done now

Arsenal had their own pitch invader that did make a run to get to Chris Smalling and the security was nowhere in sight, so by your very own argument that should mean that Arsenal gets a points deduction which I don't agree with as you can't realistically control every fans actions.

Most of the fans that attend these grounds are grown adults and shouldn't need a Football Club to tell them right from wrong.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Arsenal had their own pitch invader that did make a run to get to Chris Smalling and the security was nowhere in sight, so by your very own argument that should mean that Arsenal gets a points deduction which I don't agree with as you can't realistically control every fans actions.

Most of the fans that attend these grounds are grown adults and shouldn't need a Football Club to tell them right from wrong.

Wasn't this Birmingham fan supposed to already have a lifetime ban? Plus he actually punched him whilst the Arsenal guy just ran up to him and laughed in his face. Hardly comparable.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Wasn't this Birmingham fan supposed to already have a lifetime ban? Plus he actually punched him whilst the Arsenal guy just ran up to him and laughed in his face. Hardly comparable.

The Arsenal fan didn't hit Smalling because Smalling had spotted him running up to him beforehand, where as sadly for Grealish he didn't spot our fan in time which led to him being punched.

Also the argument that has been used against us by a lot of people which should also be used against Arsenal and Hibs was that the Stewards were slow to respond to the pitch invasion, and what if the fan was carrying a weapon?

My point anyway is just because there was a slight difference in how it all played out between Birmingham's pitch invader actually being successful in attacking Grealish whilst Arsenal's pitch invader failed to attack Smalling doesn't mean that the intent wasn't there from the Arsenal fan and whatever punishment we get Arsenal should also get the same.