[arista]

This was yesterday.

[A non-fatal stabbing in Surrey is being
treated as a terrorism incident by police.
Officers were called to reports of a man
acting aggressively and shouting
racist comments while carrying a
baseball bat and a knife in Stanwell
at 10.30pm on Saturday night.
Shortly afterwards, police received reports
that a man had been stabbed - and
detectives believe the same suspect
is behind both incidents.]

https://news.sky.com/story/police-tr...ident-11668741


[Surrey Police said the 19-year-old man who was stabbed
sustained non-life threatening injuries and is being treated in hospital.]


Glad he did not die

[Oliver_W]

I'm interested as to what made it a terror attack rather than a hate crime.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm interested as to what made it a terror attack rather than a hate crime.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/19/u...rnd/index.html

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Rob!

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/19/u...rnd/index.html

The article says "The FBI says a crime becomes a hate crime when there's an added element of bias. For example, if the victim was killed because of his or her race, religion or sexual orientation" so this particular case sounds more like a racist hate crime, unless there's something I skipped over.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm interested as to what made it a terror attack rather than a hate crime.

The element that usually has to come into play to make something "terrorism" is there being an attempt to further a political goal... I.e. "I attacked that Muslim because I just hate Muslims" = hate crime, "I attacked that Muslim because I want them and the government to know that they are not welcome here and its time to send them all home" = terrorism.

Tbh the vast majority of "random" race related attacks in the UK these days could be accurately described as terrorism as they generally are intended to send a political message about immigration.

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Toy Soldier;10481021]The element that usually has to come into play to make something "terrorism" is there being an attempt to further a political goal... I.e. "I attacked that Muslim because I just hate Muslims" = hate crime, "I attacked that Muslim because I want them and the government to know that they are not welcome here and its time to send them all home" = terrorism.

Tbh the vast majority of "random" race related attacks in the UK these days could be accurately described as terrorism as they generally are intended to send a political message about immigration.[/QUOTE]

although your previous stance when they were some lone knife incidents at tube stations and in Central London was to not to call them terror attacks

Of course all attacks of this nature should be deemed terror attacks as they cause terror

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

although your previous stance when they were some lone knife incidents at tube stations and in Central London was to not to call them terror attacks

Of course all attacks of this nature should be deemed terror attacks as they cause terror

The key part for the official definition of terrorism is there being a motivation to drive political change.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The element that usually has to come into play to make something "terrorism" is there being an attempt to further a political goal... I.e. "I attacked that Muslim because I just hate Muslims" = hate crime, "I attacked that Muslim because I want them and the government to know that they are not welcome here and its time to send them all home" = terrorism.

Tbh the vast majority of "random" race related attacks in the UK these days could be accurately described as terrorism as they generally are intended to send a political message about immigration.

Which part of the article makes it sound like it was to further a cause? It just sounds like he was a hateful twat tbh

[The Slim Reaper]

And just like that, the people became interested in nuance.

[Mystic Mock]

Terrorism and hate crime normally do tend to go hand in hand as terrorism normally happens because the terrorists are intolerant of that particular group of people that have been attacked.

Hopefully the person that did the stabbing will be locked up for a long time.