[Nicky91]

i don't know what to think of this, he already served his punishment long time behind bars

i guess based upon how cruel his crime was, death penalty might've been a good choice but life sentence without any chance of parole would've also just been a good option, letting him rot behind bars for the rest of his life

[Livia]

You commit a crime, you get punished. In this case the crime was serious enough for him to have his life ended. That is not murder. The moral of this story is, don't be a filthy racist murderer, and you won't have to face a death sentence yourself.

There are innocents all over the world dying, I'm not going to spend any time worrying about someone who virtually tortured a man to death because he was a different colour.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished.

No sh*t Sherlock.

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished. In this case the crime was serious enough for him to have his life ended. That is not murder. The moral of this story is, don't be a filthy racist murderer, and you won't have to face a death sentence yourself.

There are innocents all over the world dying, I'm not going to spend any time worrying about someone who virtually tortured a man to death because he was a different colour.

No one's worrying about him. It's a general conversation about the death penalty.

You might not one to take part, no one's forcing you to.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

So you are saying he should be held in higher regard then the man he brutally tortured?

I'm sorry I would have tortured him back.

He is a risk to society and a risk to known white prisoners or guards

Who held him to a higher regard? You just made that up?

You'd happily torture and kill another human being?

So, that makes you better than him how, exactly?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i don't know what to think of this, he already served his punishment long time behind bars

i guess based upon how cruel his crime was, death penalty might've been a good choice but life sentence without any chance of parole would've also just been a good option, letting him rot behind bars for the rest of his life

The thing is though Nicky,they don't 'rot' in jail do they,some of them get a lot of things they would not have on the outside.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The thing is though Nicky,they don't 'rot' in jail do they,some of them get a lot of things they would not have on the outside.

Such as?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Livia

You commit a crime, you get punished. In this case the crime was serious enough for him to have his life ended. That is not murder. The moral of this story is, don't be a filthy racist murderer, and you won't have to face a death sentence yourself.

There are innocents all over the world dying, I'm not going to spend any time worrying about someone who virtually tortured a man to death because he was a different colour.

if only it was that simple, but some are made a murderer, via a bad style of life, abusive parent(s) or being bullied at school/work becoming a loner

or mentally ill


i guess we gotta pay attention some more to some potential outcasts (same what they warn us for with possible suicide risks) if we can prevent people from going bad, evil and then into criminals, we can make the world a better place to live in


get some of those people the help they need in time from psychiatrists

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No sh*t Sherlock.



No one's worrying about him. It's a general conversation about the death penalty.

You might not one to take part, no one's forcing you to.

I am taking part!

He deserved to die.

In my own opinion, of course.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who held him to a higher regard? You just made that up?

You'd happily torture and kill another human being?

So, that makes you better than him how, exactly?

It makes me better because I want rid of people who are unsafe and have disgusting views, many people have been damaged by what he did I'll never feel sorry for him and I'll never stop wanting people like him dead.

It's not a crime being black so that man should not have bee treated the way he is

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

if only it was that simple, but some are made a murderer, via a bad style of life, abusive parent(s) or being bullied at school/work becoming a loner

or mentally ill


i guess we gotta pay attention some more to some potential outcasts (same what they warn us for with possible suicide risks) if we can prevent people from going bad, evil and then into criminals, we can make the world a better place to live in


get some of those people the help they need in time from psychiatrists

He was a full on racist part of the group KKK, he had a tattoo of a black man being hanged on his body

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I am taking part!

[Denver]

If everyone read the story and saw the horrific injuries and what actually happen you would have more sympathy for the man who lost his life and the people left behind to deal with such a nasty horrible crime

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

If everyone read the story and saw the horrific injuries and what actually happen you would have more sympathy for the man who lost his life and the people left behind to deal with such a nasty horrible crime

Who doesn't have sympathy for his victim?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He was a full on racist part of the group KKK, he had a tattoo of a black man being hanged on his body

This is where I actually agree.

Terrible tattoos should be against the law.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The thing is though Nicky,they don't 'rot' in jail do they,some of them get a lot of things they would not have on the outside.

yes i've seen that, but some criminals can change for the good again

as seen in pitbull & parolees, of course they were arrested for lesser crimes, although some had been in prison for armed robbery, and want to be good people again

i like how they got dog training programs in some US jails now, it gives the inmates a chance to do something good for society, and working punishments are great punishments for the lesser crime inmates

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Adam.

He was a full on racist part of the group KKK, he had a tattoo of a black man being hanged on his body

that is what i call, seriously mental ill

and also KKK still exists yeah, but they aren't as big as they used to be, i've seen on investigation discovery, some of these hate groups similar to KKK search for new members online, outcasts, loners are usually targetted to join their group

[Marsh.]

Can I just clarify, I didn't call any forum member Hitler.

I compared the opinion of "They hold different views to me" is what got Hitler murdering everyone he didn't like/agree with. It's a perfectly valid comparison.

But I shall not use his name again.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wow ok. The word is different so that makes the killing of one human by another human completely different. Yeah, ok LT.

yes it makes a big difference so stop trying tio misuse a word to sensationalise to try and work your point

The perp was killed by the state in agreement with the people - no one was murdered save the man killed by the perp.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes it makes a big difference so stop trying tio misuse a word to sensationalise to try and work your point

The perp was killed by the state in agreement with the people - no one was murdered save the man killed by the perp.

Again, terminology doesn't change my point.

Deflect from it all you want.

[Tom4784]

Choosing to intentionally kill another person is murder, the death penalty is murder with a misplaced sense of justice. By supporting the death penalty, you support murder.

[Livia]

I'd be quite happy for the death penalty to be commuted to life in prison, so long as those prisoners are working - hard - for the good of the rest of the country. Maybe a treadmill to add to the national grid, maybe something more technical.... but so long as they work, 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Until they die.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd be quite happy for the death penalty to be commuted to life in prison, so long as those prisoners are working - hard - for the good of the rest of the country. Maybe a treadmill to add to the national grid, maybe something more technical.... but so long as they work, 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Until they die.

I think that would be a better idea, give back to society in some way

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think that would be a better idea, give back to society in some way

Yes, a kind of payback. Not breaking rocks, but something to benefit everyone.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'd be quite happy for the death penalty to be commuted to life in prison, so long as those prisoners are working - hard - for the good of the rest of the country. Maybe a treadmill to add to the national grid, maybe something more technical.... but so long as they work, 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Until they die.

It would be a lot cheaper to shoot them and then spend the money on community projects and giving youngsters apprentiships

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Choosing to intentionally kill another person is murder, the death penalty is murder with a misplaced sense of justice. By supporting the death penalty, you support murder.

incorrect