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Old 30-04-2019, 08:47 AM #1
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Yes this has been going for a Couple years

Best way to deal with this
is put Cecil Rhodes Brass large written plate there
telling all the truth.
With all the long ago dates.

If you go back 200 years
what the hell would you expect



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes



After Rhodes's death in 1902, at the age of 48, he was buried in the Matopos Hills in Rhodesia
what is now Zimbabwe



He had so much more to give





Example: For the Massive Big Brass Plate:
[His De Beers diamond company, formed in 1888,
retains its prominence into the 21st century.
Rhodes entered the Cape Parliament at the age of 27 in 1880,
and a decade later became Prime Minister.
After overseeing the formation of Rhodesia during the early 1890s,
he was forced to resign as Prime Minister in 1896
after the disastrous Jameson Raid, an unauthorised attack
on Paul Kruger's South African Republic (or Transvaal). ]

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Cecil as a boy late 1850's

Time was of the Great British Empire

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I await an apology from the Vatican. I reckon they've killed more people over the centuries than the slave trade.

While I recognise what happened in the past was wrong, it was in the past. It would be like me apologising to the great granddaughter of someone my great grandfather punched... pointless. Maybe Cambridge can appease the protesters in some other way... like tell them how many more state school kids get in now than did in the past when it was a rich, white, male dominated place.
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Yes this has been going for a Couple years

Best way to deal with this
is put Cecil Rhodes Brass large written plate there
telling all the truth.
With all the long ago dates.

If you go back 200 years
what the hell would you expect



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes



After Rhodes's death in 1902, at the age of 48, he was buried in the Matopos Hills in Rhodesia
what is now Zimbabwe



He had so much more to give





Example: For the Massive Big Brass Plate:
[His De Beers diamond company, formed in 1888,
retains its prominence into the 21st century.
Rhodes entered the Cape Parliament at the age of 27 in 1880,
and a decade later became Prime Minister.
After overseeing the formation of Rhodesia during the early 1890s,
he was forced to resign as Prime Minister in 1896
after the disastrous Jameson Raid, an unauthorised attack
on Paul Kruger's South African Republic (or Transvaal). ]

My school history lessons brought to mind now.
Plus we had a day off celebrating Rhodes and Founders day.
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I don't understand. Do they want to burn, remove, tear down everything that may have a shady past in the history books?

There won't be a whole lot left.

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Who are they apologising to? Is it me? If it is, then they needn't bother themselves, I'm fine.
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I don't understand. Do they want to burn, remove, tear down everything that may have a shady past in the history books?

There won't be a whole lot left.
But only in this country, it seems. Other countries are okay with their questionable past.
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Yawn. More garnering of white guilt. The past is the past, we don't need to dredge it up. There's nothing to be gained from this.
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Yawn. More garnering of white guilt. The past is the past, we don't need to dredge it up. There's nothing to be gained from this.

They are Digging Up the Past
to get Money....................................
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Who are they apologising to? Is it me? If it is, then they needn't bother themselves, I'm fine.

No they want your Cash
as you are a Honky


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I don't understand. Do they want to burn, remove, tear down everything that may have a shady past in the history books?

There won't be a whole lot left.
In fairness taking down statues that honour terrible people is a fair request. It's not removing them from history, it's just taking them off a pedestal.
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In fairness taking down statues that honour terrible people is a fair request. It's not removing them from history, it's just taking them off a pedestal.
Oh no, that I have no problem with.

But this kind of stuff. Sort of like the Churchill stuff from last year seems a wasted endeavour from some people who seem to have just learnt history.
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In fairness taking down statues that honour terrible people is a fair request. It's not removing them from history, it's just taking them off a pedestal.

No put a Brass Solid Plate
next to it
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It pains me to say this, having studied there, but Cambridge University is taking on board this hysterical campaign to castigate people who are long, long dead. Makes them look good, right? But I've never seen them apologise, or even refer to the fact that women were not allowed to enter a degree course at Cambridge until 1947. So if they're handing out apologies, better apologise to EVERYONE you've oppressed.
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i had a girlfriend that was at Cambridge, and the whole institution just stank as far as i was concerned
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