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21-06-2019, 07:56 AM | #26 | |||
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Man or woman,makes no difference we are all equal now are we not ? or is that just when it suits.
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21-06-2019, 07:58 AM | #27 | ||
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The irony is climate crisis is infinitely more important than a dinner with a chancellor who wont be there tomorrow giving a speech which will be irrelevant when he goes
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21-06-2019, 08:01 AM | #28 | |||
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there are 100 different ways that could have been handled better. Just think for a moment if the person had been armed and what the result might have been.
It is against the law to use excessive force, and with that video, there is plenty evidence for police to decide if a law was broken. For there not to be security at an event like that is shocking. Thats where the real issue is. |
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21-06-2019, 08:03 AM | #29 | ||
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21-06-2019, 08:04 AM | #30 | |||
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21-06-2019, 08:07 AM | #31 | ||
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21-06-2019, 08:22 AM | #32 | ||
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However, I'm as sure as I can be, had this been a Labour MP doing this, this thread would be filled with viiolent left wing Labour thug or thugs comments. This was a predominantly Conservative and business function. It was a Conservative MP, representing his Party there as an invited guest. Who chose to explode the way he did. You say he'll be dealt with however. I hope the law does that. As I'd have concerns his Party will. To his credit he has referred himself to the Cabinet office. The Party should at the very least suspend him. As I said, I hope the law acts on this. He is a Foreign office Minister too. This brings his Party by his actions into disrepute. Be interesting to hear the 2 leadership's candidates decision as to their thoughts on this. As I say however, and it stuns me he is getting defended, not by you admittedly on here,off here however. Anyone condoning assault like this, well they are more possibly the real thugs. In my view anyway. In panic, it's true people can react out of character but he was the only one who took it to a whole new extreme. I repeat however, had this been a Labour dominated function and a Labour MP manhandled and assaulted a woman in this way. I'd bet most of all I have, the media, the Conservative Party and on here would have the language likely blue. Against the whole Party,Corbyn,the MPs and Labour members, not just the offending MP. As a firm Labour member, I get offensively lumped in on here to all the digs of supposed left wing thuggery and how we are revolutionaries and undesirable beings,. It's tiresome. If a Labour MP had done this, my view would be the exact same as now. This man should be prosecuted. He should be sacked as a Minister. Really he maybe shouldn't be in Parliament at all. If he can act like this in the glare of publicity, I'd be really concerned how he'd react in a more private setting. I see nothing at all to support as to his action in any shape or form whatsoever. The Conservative Party do have to act too. He's one of their Ministers after all. |
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21-06-2019, 08:25 AM | #33 | |||
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She could easily have had a knife clutched in her left hand in amongst all those papers or in fact a bottle of acid..maybe even a gun.
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21-06-2019, 08:26 AM | #34 | |||
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You cannot associate the actions of one person with that of an entire party, that's just plain silly. However, those in public life, and members of a political party have to be held responsible for their actions as they are representatives of that party. If this act goes unpunished then it is being condoned
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21-06-2019, 08:27 AM | #35 | ||
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It isn't the way to deal with a protester. It's actually worrying anyone could think it is. So if a group of pensioners protesting at a political event against say the licence change. It would be fine for an MP of any party to grab one of them by the throat. Not a chance. What a sad indictment on this Country that his action is seen as acceptable. By anyone. |
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21-06-2019, 08:27 AM | #36 | |||
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I don't recall labours 2jags being dragged over the coals when he punched the bloke who threw an egg...I'm sure he was applauded
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21-06-2019, 08:34 AM | #37 | ||
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You neglect to highlight, not surprisingly to me, the point that that egg thrower actually initiated and assaulted Prescott first. This woman didn't assault this MP, nor try to fight back at him. There's a world of a difference in your scenario. As I said in earlier post. Had this been a Labour MP who done this. I feel sure you would possibly be one leading the outrage in thread after thread. Wanting him near hung,drawn and quartered. |
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21-06-2019, 08:34 AM | #38 | |||
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could is a very big word though
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21-06-2019, 08:56 AM | #39 | |||
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MPs these days are routinely sent abuse, death threats etc. When there's a high level security breach at an event like this and one protestor heads straight to where the Chancellor is sat then its not surprising you might fear the worst
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21-06-2019, 09:00 AM | #40 | |||
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21-06-2019, 09:01 AM | #41 | |||
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i will,don't need your permission.
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21-06-2019, 09:01 AM | #42 | |||
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Oh well...best he didn't do anything incase she didn't have one.
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21-06-2019, 09:17 AM | #43 | |||
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He definitely wouldn’t have been as aggressive and handsy if that was a bloke, get him gone
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21-06-2019, 09:23 AM | #44 | |||
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21-06-2019, 09:27 AM | #45 | ||
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Sorry but yeah. Obviously not all of 'the right' but the overwhelming response to this I have seen from right wing people I know is 'no big deal, security breach' etc. And thse are the very same people who were wailing a few weeks back about a joke or milkshakes (actually, more over the robinson milkshake than farages oddly enough..). Mind, it should be expected I guess, given a few of these same people decided the video where robinson punched that guy to the ground randomly was 'clearly self defense'
This was clearly not reasonable force, and the anger on his face is..a bit much too. I find it really odd that there were no security staff at a do like that? Unless they were but he wanted to show his big bollocks or something, which wouldn't shock me.
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21-06-2019, 09:40 AM | #46 | |||
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Let’s remember, trespassing isn’t illegal, so her only crime was wearing an ugly red dress to posh black tie event, maybe Mark is just a big secret fashionista and that’s why he got so mad?
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21-06-2019, 09:46 AM | #47 | |||
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He was probably furious. I would have been.... at a dinner at Mansion House and suddenly there's a stream of protestors. They could have been anyone or done anything. Where the bloody hell was security? And they're protesting to the wrong people.
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21-06-2019, 09:51 AM | #48 | |||
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That's right, MTVN. When I worked for MPs there was always a bit of a panic about stuff being sent to them, to their homes, to their families... packets of sand or seeds that could be anything, padded envelopes that could have anything at all in them. And here we are at a dinner in the Mansion House and people are outraged because a protester was manhandled. She didn't look distressed to me, she probably thought it would get her more attention, and it has. She's lucky someone didn't punch her in the face or take her to the ground. I think security must have been having their dinner.
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21-06-2019, 10:06 AM | #49 | |||
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21-06-2019, 10:09 AM | #50 | |||
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These days you never know until its too late She was not Hurt. It's given Left Wing Greenpeace Free Publicity. |
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