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Old 03-07-2019, 07:42 AM #26
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...so this is someone who stowed away in the plane ..and jumped before it landed ..(..possibly...)....I just can’t even imagine what some people’s lives are in their need to flea their country in what they think is ‘safety’...horrific, poor man ...and for those surrounding residents of where he fell and their emotional well-being ....
No, i don't think so. The lack of oxygen at that height and the cold/ice will have killed him pretty quickly. Just at some point, his body has fallen from the plane.

This may be a lot more common than we think, just people are lost in unpopulated areas or the sea.
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Apparently they get thrown because of something to do with the landing gear so it’s a doomed trip anyway
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...but the risk is still taken because of a desperation/despair felt ...?...it’s heartbreaking...
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...but the risk is still taken because of a desperation/despair felt ...?...it’s heartbreaking...
Hi Ammi.

It's being reported he was an airport worker. He may have been desperate enough to attempt that, but his sandwiches were found in london when they checked the aparatus.

Imagine if he was just skiving off work and having a nap.
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Hi Ammi.

It's being reported he was an airport worker. He may have been desperate enough to attempt that, but his sandwiches were found in london when they checked the aparatus.

Imagine if he was just skiving off work and having a nap.
...it’s thought that he may have been a Nairobi airport worker...(...hence access to the plane...)...but he was still a ‘stowaway’ though, so far as is known...poor guy, the whole thing is just terrifying to think about...
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...so this is someone who stowed away in the plane ..and jumped before it landed ..(..possibly...)....I just can’t even imagine what some people’s lives are in their need to flea their country in what they think is ‘safety’...horrific, poor man ...and for those surrounding residents of where he fell and their emotional well-being ....
They fell when the landing gear opened
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It gets as cold as minus 40-50 at height, that's without the mechanism maybe crushing him as the wheels lift and the high chance of falling. As he worked at an airport I'm going to assume he had an idea of how it would go, so I'm going 1% for desperation (although some immediately assume this) and 99% for stupidity.
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It gets as cold as minus 40-50 at height, that's without the mechanism maybe crushing him as the wheels lift and the high chance of falling. As he worked at an airport I'm going to assume he had an idea of how it would go, so I'm going 1% for desperation (although some immediately assume this) and 99% for stupidity.
He surely must be miscellaneous airport staff (baggage handling maybe?) and not aircraft maintenance or an engineer or anything like that because, as you say, someone with any knowledge of aircraft would know that this is unsurvivable without a tonne of thermal equipment and an oxygen supply. If he's unskilled staff it would sadly be down to a lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude rather than stupidity pre se.

On the positive side; he would have passed out pretty quickly from the dropping pressure and lack of oxygen, so I doubt he suffered for long.
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He surely must be miscellaneous airport staff (baggage handling maybe?) and not aircraft maintenance or an engineer or anything like that because, as you say, someone with any knowledge of aircraft would know that this is unsurvivable without a tonne of thermal equipment and an oxygen supply. If he's unskilled staff it would sadly be down to a lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude rather than stupidity pre se.

On the positive side; he would have passed out pretty quickly from the dropping pressure and lack of oxygen, so I doubt he suffered for long.
You call it lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude, I call it stupidity.
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You call it lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude, I call it stupidity.
I suppose. Though 500 years ago, people far smarter than you or I wouldn't have had any idea what conditions are like at 30,000 feet . It's just lack of general knowledge which doesn't really say anything about intelligence IMO. Some of the smartest people I know are severely lacking in some areas of what seems like really basic knowledge.
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I strongly believe he was having a nap during work hours..perhaps an extended break.
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This is so sad, but is it bad that I laughed at the way it was described?
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James Bond irl.

You’d **** your pants if you were sat out catching some rays and a frozen guy just came flying out the sky and landed next to you though.
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I suppose. Though 500 years ago, people far smarter than you or I wouldn't have had any idea what conditions are like at 30,000 feet . It's just lack of general knowledge which doesn't really say anything about intelligence IMO. Some of the smartest people I know are severely lacking in some areas of what seems like really basic knowledge.

This man wasn't born 500 years ago. He has access to the Internet... it's Kenya, not China. I'm sure he could read, even if he did the most menial of jobs. And he worked at an airport. Someone who is going to embark on a journey like he did must surely have looked into how it might go? It's not like this is the first person who's tried it. Sounds pretty stupid to me, and his dead body falling thousands of feet kind of punctuates that fact.
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