[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

And then I'd drop them off where they came from, yes.

I'm glad we've progressed then

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well lucky,you,Ive often come away from hospital without a clue what has been related to me. it doesn't bother me I just find it a bit embarrassing having to keep saying pardon so most times I just give up as I would never ask to see someone else.

Same ~ i rarely understand what my eye doctor is saying as he has a strong accent and talks very fast and i feel its rude to keep saying pardon, but i like him lots so i just get my special prescripton and see him next time
I don't care at all what nationality anyone is as long as can do their job and would not dream of asking for a white person .

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I will admit,I do have trouble understanding some foreigners as their English is not so good and I find it embarrassing as I am deaf in one ear which makes understanding them worse, but I would never refuse treatment from one most make excellent doctors.A doctor is a doctor no matter what colour they are.

Originally Posted by Redway

Because all foreigners are non-white and all non-whites are foreign and all foreigners speak bad English, innit. Got you.

That's not fair Redway.

Kazanne was clearly just saying she prefers somebody of good English because she has partial deafness and can struggle understanding otherwise. She even ended her post saying colour/race is irrelevant.

[Twosugars]

I feel it's important those who don't understand ask until they do
It's their right. Coming home frustrated by not understanding can lead to resentment of foreign medics. And it's not doing them a favour either as it leaves them unaware of the problem

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I feel it's important those who don't understand ask until they do
It's their right. Coming home frustrated by not understanding can lead to resentment of foreign medics. And it's not doing them a favour either as it leaves them unaware of the problem

For some, if they're hard of hearing or just don't come across funny accents that often, it will never happen, and Dr Hamish McHaggis will have to find someone else to explain

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I feel it's important those who don't understand ask until they do
It's their right. Coming home frustrated by not understanding can lead to resentment of foreign medics. And it's not doing them a favour either as it leaves them unaware of the problem

That's a strong valid point Twosugars.

It can be very frustrating if you haven't grasped all that was said and re medical matters that's important.

I'd always ask to have anything I hadn't understood clearly to be said again.
I have never had a problem with it as to Doctors of any nationality.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

That's not fair Redway.

Kazanne was clearly just saying she prefers somebody of good English because she has partial deafness and can struggle understanding otherwise. She even ended her post saying colour/race is irrelevant.

Thanks AJ that is exactly what I meant.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I get that but some are just so eager to pull someone up for anything , its hard to know what to say or call anyone now as I recently quite innocently called someone 'coloured' and got an infraction for it , so just how are we supposed to describe people I will probably now get another infraction because I used that naughty word

Innocent or ignorant?

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=Redway;10618003]Innocent or ignorant?[/QUOTE

innocent

[Redway]

Ignorantly really.

That word along with half-caste ain't been acceptable in parlance since the mid-80s at the latest and everyone should know that.

[Kizzy]

Yep refuse to treat, agree with that if your predudice is manifest enough to compromise your own health then there's no helping you anyway.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

And I haven't as such, I was just explaining why I described some people as foreigners as its hard to know what to call them,without someone getting irate,well that worked well didn't it ?

I think mtvn was explaining the infraction you got that you were talking about, rather than saying you are doing anything wrong now. Its just well known that 'coloured people' does offend many. Hence, the infraction for when you used it

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Redway

Ignorantly really.

That word along with half-caste ain't been acceptable in parlance since the mid-80s at the latest and everyone should know that.

Hi Redway.
I agree with your main paragraph.
Personally, I felt it a word that oughtn't be seen as wrong myself.

However it is, and people are extremely intensely offended by it, hence it not being acceptable.
So you are totally right in that main paragraph.

[Ammi]

...I guess if he had genuine concerns about an aspect of his health...his only thought would be of seeing someone with medical experience ...if he just left then surely he was just ‘trolling’ the hospital and didn’t require any medical assistance...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Redway

Ignorantly really.

That word along with half-caste ain't been acceptable in parlance since the mid-80s at the latest and everyone should know that.

Well I'm sorry ,I don't spend my days thinking about such things,whether you deem it right or wrong it was never meant as an insult, but you go ahead with your insults

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think mtvn was explaining the infraction you got that you were talking about, rather than saying you are doing anything wrong now. Its just well known that 'coloured people' does offend many. Hence, the infraction for when you used it

Ok, I have always found MTVN fair and accept that

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

For some, if they're hard of hearing or just don't come across funny accents that often, it will never happen, and Dr Hamish McHaggis will have to find someone else to explain

Really though?

Tibb's littlest bigot rides again, choo choo! If I hadn't sworn off the gambling game, I'd be taking bets on how much longer your free pass is going to last, Oli.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Really though?

Tibb's littlest bigot rides again, choo choo! If I hadn't sworn off the gambling game, I'd be taking bets on how much longer your free pass is going to last, Oli.

You mean bigot mc biggotface?...

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Really though?

Tibb's littlest bigot rides again, choo choo! If I hadn't sworn off the gambling game, I'd be taking bets on how much longer your free pass is going to last, Oli.

This is the Tea

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Really though?

Tibb's littlest bigot rides again, choo choo! If I hadn't sworn off the gambling game, I'd be taking bets on how much longer your free pass is going to last, Oli.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think mtvn was explaining the infraction you got that you were talking about, rather than saying you are doing anything wrong now. Its just well known that 'coloured people' does offend many. Hence, the infraction for when you used it

I think this guy was a Knob and was never refused healthcare.

But in South Africa colored people would be very offended if you called them black.I think kazanne was a wee bit lazy in her post saying that this guy only requested a white so he could understand them as a patient..No he wanted a white because he is a racist....I don't know Kazanne's intentions...but I can hazzard a guess...The word coloured in South Africa is what alot of we white people need to understand is not racist ..it is who they proudly are

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lime

I think this guy was a Knob and was never refused healthcare.

But in South Africa colored people would be very offended if you called them black.I think kazanne was a wee bit lazy in her post saying that this guy only requested a white so he could understand them as a patient..No he wanted a white because he is a racist....I don't know Kazanne's intentions...but I can hazzard a guess...The word coloured in South Africa is what alot of we white people need to understand is not racist ..it is who they proudly are

This is what I mean lime it's all a bit complicated what is right for some is not right for others , and yes I should have worded it differently but no insult was intended, the thing I was trying to portray is the only problem I have ever had is understanding some people.

[Ammi]

..it’s a term that goes back to a time of segregation and a time of white privilege, which is why it’s not a modern day acceptable term...and it implies that ‘colour’ is somehow different when every single one of us has a skin colour...so it would in reality apply to us all...?...

[lime]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it’s a term that goes back to a time of segregation and a time of white privilege, which is why it’s not a modern day acceptable term...and it implies that ‘colour’ is somehow different when every single one of us has a skin colour...so it would in reality apply to us all...?...

I understand what "coloured " means in the west ...but where I come from ..Africa...coloured people are offended that we whites take their right away...They idendify as coloured...surely that's their right?

It's difficult for them because they are not accepted by Whites/Blacks.

They call theselves colored ..and who am I to deny them

[Tom4784]

If this was actually about accents or something then they would have requested an english doctor, they asked for a white doctor so there's no doubt that they were motivated by racism.