[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is a very weak argument and quite insulting not all mixed race teens stab people Cherie :/

Oh come on be fair, she never suggested that because he was mixed race.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is a very weak argument and quite insulting not all mixed race teens stab people Cherie :/
My point is the time it take for him to get that good at a video fame for most teens causes a lot of problems with schoosing, relationships with parents and peers yes one in a million win a million it doesn't mean a lot of screen time is a good thing.
I hope the boy has the guidance to help him with this life changing amount.

I meant as he was a teenager, not that he was mixed race, it didnt even cross my mind

You know nothing about his life, why are you judging?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh come on be fair, she never suggested that because he was mixed race.

Thanks Marsh, talk about trying to stir up something that isn't even there

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah but he'll have spent those gaming/playing anyway. He' a kid.

Now, if we're talking about a grown adult spending their time on games rather than looking for work or whatever then it is a problem. But TiBB can be very unconstructive time spent so we're all guilty of our vices.

It's not written in stone kids have to play video games.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I meant as he was a teenager, not that he was mixed race, it didnt even cross my mind

You know nothing about his life, why are you judging?

Why are you? You said he couldve been a drug runner... I've made no judgements :/

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's not written in stone kids have to play video games.

Who said it was? You changed the discussion.

You said it was unconstructive and if he'd lost it was wasted hours. I said he's a kid so to him it will still have been hours playing a game he enjoyed and probably would've spent playing regardless of the competition. As the kid we're discussing obviously loves his games.

I then suggested there's an argument that a grown adult with responsibilities spending that much time gaming is concerningly unconstructive.

Nowhere was any point made that kids have to play games.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thanks Marsh, talk about trying to stir up something that isn't even there

There's a pic of the boy.. he's a mixed race teen. So your comment was specifically related to him being a teenager only? .. ok that's fine.

[Toy Soldier]

There's a LOT of money in eSports these days to be fair, Fortnight is a very new (and possibly temporary) one compared to things like DOTA2, Counter-strike, League of Legends, Overwatch and Starcraft but yeah...

I don't think it's different to most physical sports though; it's true that only a few will be good enough to make any money but that's true of tennis, football, or any other sport so . I don't think there are many kids sat at home believing its easy. People are aware that the winners of these things have a level of natural skill at the game that goes beyond just practicing a lot. Also winners tends to be younger because split second differences in reaction times really matter in high-level gaming and reaction times start to drop fast once you hit about 25.

Hard to make a career out of Fortnight alone though (unless he gains a streaming / merchandise following) becaaaause fortnight isn't a purely skill based game, it incorporates a LOT of randomness and luck, so at the top level you wouldn't really expect the same people to consistently win tournaments. Too much down to chance,compared to games based on skill and tactics like CS.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who said it was? You changed the discussion.

You said it was unconstructive and if he'd lost it was wasted hours. I said he's a kid so to him it will still have been hours playing a game he enjoyed and probably would've spent playing regardless of the competition. As the kid we're discussing obviously loves his games.

I then suggested there's an argument that a grown adult with responsibilities spending that much time gaming is concerningly unconstructive.

Nowhere was any point made that kids have to play games.

Your comment suggested it was a given as he was a teen he would play games, and spend a lot of time on them.. I dont agree.
Yes some adults spend a lot of time online I don't agree with that either, I'm lucky to be able to log on from work

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There's a LOT of money in eSports these days to be fair, Fortnight is a very new (and possibly temporary) one compared to things like DOTA2, Counter-strike, League of Legends, Overwatch and Starcraft but yeah...

I don't think it's different to most physical sports though; it's true that only a few will be good enough to make any money but that's true of tennis, football, or any other sport so . I don't think there are many kids sat at home believing its easy. People are aware that the winners of these things have a level of natural skill at the game that goes beyond just practicing a lot. Also winners tends to be younger because split second differences in reaction times really matter in high-level gaming and reaction times start to drop fast once you hit about 25.

Hard to make a career out of Fortnight alone though (unless he gains a streaming / merchandise following) becaaaause fortnight isn't a purely skill based game, it incorporates a LOT of randomness and luck, so at the top level you wouldn't really expect the same people to consistently win tournaments. Too much down to chance,compared to games based on skill and tactics like CS.

It's very different to real sports there's no comparison.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There's a pic of the boy.. he's a mixed race teen. So your comment was specifically related to him being a teenager only? .. ok that's fine.

yes it was, only your mind says otherwise, it never crossed mine other than he is a teenager, says quite alot about how you think, and yes I am judging you

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Your comment suggested it was a given as he was a teen he would play games, and spend a lot of time on them.. I dont agree.

Well that's not what I meant. I meant as a teen a lot of his time will be spent unconstructively. In this particular teen he enjoys gaming. For another it will be watching films etc.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's very different to real sports there's no comparison.

Of course there's a comparison.

He's not saying it's exactly the same but the competition aspect is certainly the same. And how some are more about skill than others that are more about pot luck or who's the fastest.

It's not the same, but there's a comparison.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why are you? You said he couldve been a drug runner... I've made no judgements :/

I never said that, I said there are alot worse ways he could be spending his time and the infererence was he isn't harming anybody, and its up to his family to decide if he is spending too much time online, not you

[AnnieK]

I limit my son's internet time massively (he is onky 8) but now whilst I'm sat at the athletics track and tomorrow when I'm sat on the football touchline in the rain, I'll wish he was.into gaming even at his age near enough every single one of his friends spend hours playing fortnite etc

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yes it was, only your mind says otherwise, it never crossed mine other than he is a teenager, says quite alot about how you think, and yes I am judging you

Well that's quite rude.. there is a pic of the boy. :/

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well that's quite rude.. there is a pic of the boy. :/

Most people don't immediately categorise people by race though.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I limit my son's internet time massively (he is onky 8) but now whilst I'm sat at the athletics track and tomorrow when I'm sat on the football touchline in the rain, I'll wish he was.into gaming even at his age near enough every single one of his friends spend hours playing fortnite etc

Good on you Annie I'm anti gaming I know that keep your lad outside as much as humanly possible

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well that's quite rude.. there is a pic of the boy. :/

so? it didn't even cross my mind he was mixed race, you took it on board though

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I never said that, I said there are alot worse ways he could be spending his time and the infererence was he isn't harming anybody, and its up to his family to decide if he is spending too much time online, not you

Look the topic was put here for us to discuss... I'm discussing it. Personally I don't think this us the fantastic triumph others do obviously. It's just my opinion ok?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

so? it didn't even cross my mind he was mixed race, you took it on board though

I saw the pic yes I presumed you had too it being in the OP. ..do you feel I'm accusing you of something? To clarify I'm not.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Look the topic was put here for us to discuss... I'm discussing it. Personally I don't think this us the fantastic triumph others do obviously. It's just my opinion ok?

Why are you now acting like she has a problem with your opinion. You accused her of racism for no reason.

Stop changing the goalposts of what's being discussed.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I saw the pic yes I presumed you had too it being in the OP. ..do you feel I'm accusing you of something? To clarify I'm not.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That is a very weak argument and quite insulting not all mixed race teens stab people Cherie :/

What's the truth?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why are you now acting like she has a problem with your opinion. You accused her of racism for no reason.

Stop changing the goalposts of what's being discussed.

No I haven't. . And I didn't don't put words in my mouth.
I don't mind you policing the thread Marsh, but I'll choose what I post if you don't mind.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

What's the truth?

'could be worse, he could be out knifing his peers or drug running on county lines'

That's what Cherie put... his pic is in the OP. Now I've explained it to you both is it OK if we continue with the topic?