[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The Guardian


Telling it as it is, Beto

according to Democratic....

isnt it lovely how cheap death can be when you are climbing the greasy pole...

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

according to Democratic....

isnt it lovely how cheap death can be when you are climbing the greasy pole...

He used to represent el paso, has every reason to speak

The connection he's made is clear, but you carry on your moral gymnastics
I'm past being appalled and now just find it mildly entertaining

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He used to represent el paso, has every reason to speak

The connection he's made is clear, but you carry on your moral gymnastics
I'm past being appalled and now just find it mildly entertaining

its not clear its just politics and its not nice

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its not clear its just politics and its not nice

Thers no clear confirmation officially
Though he may know more

I had my suspicions as soon as I heard the killer traveled over 9 hours to get to el paso, a border town...I mean why would he do that?

Care to share some wild theories LT? Go on, blue sky thinking time

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Thers no clear confirmation officially
Though he may know more

I had my suspicions as soon as I heard the killer traveled over 9 hours to get to el paso, a border town...I mean why would he do that?

Care to share some wild theories LT? Go on, blue sky thinking time

no, a mad lone-wolf gunman is not driven by logic but the huge problem with immigrants and drugs I suspect could be at the root. we shall never know

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no, a mad lone-wolf gunman is not driven by logic but the huge problem with immigrants and drugs I suspect could be at the root. we shall never know

Time will tell what or who his inspiration was....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Time will tell what or who his inspiration was....

Yes he wrote he hated Hispanics
and the Evil Fella had to have ear muffs
to protect his ears from the shooting

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

according to Democratic....

isnt it lovely how cheap death can be when you are climbing the greasy pole...

Can you take the moral high ground like that given your arguments in this thread that downplayed the violence of these shootings and made out that drug deaths are somehow worse like tragedy is a competition?

Self awareness is important, LT.

[Tom4784]

This terrorist's motivations will be the same as the other two terrorists that comitted mass shootings this week, right wing extremism.

When was the last time a mass shooting in America wasn't committed by a young, white male that just so happened to be a right wing extremist? The Pulse shooting in 2016 perhaps?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Can you take the moral high ground like that given your arguments in this thread that downplayed the violence of these shootings and made out that drug deaths are somehow worse like tragedy is a competition?

Self awareness is important, LT.

that does not make sense, sorry

[bitontheslide]

We can wring our hands for ever, but America chose this path right from it's inception. They keep saying how clever they were to organise their democracy as it is, well, now they have to live with it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that does not make sense, sorry

Saying something doesn't make sense when it does to avoid answering it doesn't work, LT.

You downplayed these deaths because they were most likely a result of right wing extremism and tried to divert attention to drug deaths and then you have the gall to say someone else is using this to their advantage when you tried to brush this story under the rug earlier in the topic.

You can't pull the moral high ground card with me, LT. I will take out the receipts every time.

[arista]

Beto O'Rouke Live on CNN HD now
is blaming Trump.
He just called Trump a White Nationalist.


He is Electioneering,



Soft Targets are easy to kill with a Deadly Machine Gun

[Tom4784]

Trump doubles down on extreme right wing rhetoric and there just so happens to be an extreme spike in mass shootings of an extreme right wing persuasion?

It's no coincidence. Trump enables these ***** and you can bet he won't condemn these shooters in the same way he'd condemn an islamic terrorist, he won't even refer to these terrorists as such because they are white and he only wants people to fear people with brown skin.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Beto O'Rouke Live on CNN HD now
is blaming Trump.
He just called Trump a White Nationalist.


He is Electioneering,



Soft Targets are easy to kill with a Deadly Machine Gun

He is saying the truth.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Saying something doesn't make sense when it does to avoid answering it doesn't work, LT.

You downplayed these deaths because they were most likely a result of right wing extremism and tried to divert attention to drug deaths and then you have the gall to say someone else is using this to their advantage when you tried to brush this story under the rug earlier in the topic.

You can't pull the moral high ground card with me, LT. I will take out the receipts every time.

no your writing was incoherent, that is an issue that you have to address. I just reminded MB who was being sensationalist to drive home a political agenda that his acertation was incorrect and the USA faces a much more dangerous threat that kills 55 people a day. (every day)

i have no idea what receipts means in relation to that fact unless you are agreeing, in which case yes well i should think so

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He is saying the truth.

no its just he backs up your world-view

that is not the same

[Twosugars]

Trump spreads hate against immigrants, the killer travels to el paso to kill immigrants

Blood on the tiny orange hands of the racist and white supremacist in the white house

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no your writing was incoherent, that is an issue that you have to address. I just reminded MB who was being sensationalist to drive home a political agenda that his acertation was incorrect and the USA faces a much more dangerous threat that kills 55 people a day. (every day)

i have no idea what receipts means in relation to that fact unless you are agreeing, in which case yes well i should think so

You shouldn't call people's posts incoherent if your reading comprehension is elementary at best, remember how often we have to go over the differences between an opinion and a fact with you because you struggle to tell the difference? Don't make out I'm incoherent because you don't have any argument to make against what I'm saying.

MB also mentioned the difference between people dying to their own addictions and a gunman going out and killing multiple people and you ignored that because it was something you couldn't argue against. When you've lost an argument you choose to ignore the response and look for something to give you an edge. It's predictable at this point.

You can only offer help to people who are self destructing due to drug issues and hope they'll take it but you certainly can prevent a gunman from murdering people who want to live. To compare the two situations is ultimately dumb.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He is saying the truth.

Bernie Saunders is now Live on CNN HD.

At least he said
Trump does not want this.

[JerseyWins]

9 killed, 16 injured in another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio today (well around 1:00 AM last night I think)

I-

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Bernie Saunders is now Live on CNN HD.

At least he said
Trump does not want this.

Bet he doesn't bc it makes him look like a murderer

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

9 killed, 16 injured in another mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio today (well around 1:00 AM last night I think)

I-

There's a thread already Jersey

What do you make of this?

[bitontheslide]

People won't like it, but there is a big difference between saying there is an immigration problem at the border and then someone going out and shooting people. Trump doesn't help the situation, but he didn't make someone drive 600 miles to shoot people.

People do need to understand that it's possible to hold an acceptable political view against immigration without it being seen as support and encouragement for shooting people

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People won't like it, but there is a big difference between saying there is an immigration problem at the border and then someone going out and shooting people. Trump doesn't help the situation, but he didn't make someone drive 600 miles to shoot people.

People do need to understand that it's possible to hold an acceptable political view against immigration without it being seen as support and encouragement for shooting people

The rate of hate crimes and incidents of this nature has spiked since 2016. The rhetoric that Trump often spouts is dangerous because people will listen and use his words for justification. Leaders need to speak carefully and Trump just says whatever comes to mind.

The spike in right wing terrorism incidents has everything to do with the political climate and the toxicity coming from the top.