[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Or she sees how evil Meghan is, it's funny that the family only split after she became part of I, the brothers never fell out.

She wanted the money now she will get nothing if Harry is exiled

Evil Meghan?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Or she sees how evil Meghan is, it's funny that the family only split after she became part of I, the brothers never fell out.

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

tbh i think Megan has let the title get to her head more then her actually being a bad person.

Which is it? Are you changing your mind every time a new article is published?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yep and he was rightfully bollocked for it, doesnt excuse the horrid treatment he and his wife are receiving though

They recieve it because of how they react, lecturing everyone on how to save the environment then take 20 plane journeys in a month, things like that is why they get the hate where Mate is just a normal gal shopping in Sainsbury with everyone else

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

They recieve it because of how they react, lecturing everyone on how to save the environment then take 20 plane journeys in a month, things like that is why they get the hate where Mate is just a normal gal shopping in Sainsbury with everyone else

You'd judge them for not fulfilling their duties as part of the Royal family even if they didn't travel. Jumping on the bandwagon.

[Denver]

No ita a contradiction you cant condemn someone for doing something that you are also doing

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

No ita a contradiction you cant condemn someone for doing something that you are also doing

They're not condemning though.

[Liam-]

Lmao, they get the hate even when they don’t do anything, ‘is Meghans snack of choice destroying the planet?’ Was a personal favourite headline about avocados, Kate didn’t receive all of this hatred when she ducked away from royal duties, it’s all because of who Meghan is and where she came from and I won’t be convinced otherwise, good on Haz and Megz for defending themselves and speaking out about the abuse they’re receiving for being a happy interracial family.

[Denver]

Kate has had it much worse

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I watched the African documentary and while it started off great and the charities they support are very worthy, Meghan made some a great speech, and Harry did that iconic walk that Diana did through the land mine areas, but I do think it was spoiled by Tom Bradbury pressing Harry on his mental health issues and their issues with the press, I think there was a time and a place and given the horrors they were highlighting it didn't really sit well, and Harry practically confirming the rift with William was really odd as well. I like both of them but I don't think they are handling themselves particularly well at the moment, when Kate married William she and her family were subjected to a lot of negative press around her 'commoner' status, she was photographed topless, they made fun of her Mum being an airhostess and running a party business, but Wills and Kate rode it out, Harry and Meghan seem to be doing a lot of complaining and whilst some of it isn't fair obviously some of the stuff that has been written is true, they do take private jets while telling others to fly less, they did spend a shedload of taxpayers money on remodelling Frogmore and then made a fuss when Archie was born, there is a rift between Wills and Harry, yes I don't think its right that Meghans letters to her Dad were revealed but then her Dad played his own part by entertaining the press for cash, they are being badly advised in my opinion, I think maybe they do need to dial back the duties and take a break maybe

Well said Cherie...I agree with everything you have said.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Kate has had it much worse

Alright pal

[Glenn.]

Why does Adam sound like my tabloid believing Nan?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Alright pal

You clearly dont remember how the press tore her apart when she got married

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

You clearly dont remember how the press tore her apart when she got married

[parmnion]

I now think harry and megan are the bollocks, they have turned thier noses up at andrew and told the lot of them to **** off.

Just like Diana did..


I salute them both.

[Ammi]

...maybe ‘the rift’ is something that was always going to happen, just because of the entirely different people they are...as they’ve got older, it’s probably become more and more apparent, as these things do...I can’t think of many close Royal sibling connections/bonds and William and Harry are probably no exception to that...and their marriages to entirely different personality types as well, has just enhanced...?...but that doesn’t make any blame lay with Meghan as such, any more or less than it would lay with Kate...


...I think that Harry’s painful associations with the media and his mother’s life and death are really strong...and that probably has a huge impact on him when he sees the hostility toward Meghan from the press...and maybe he becomes a little over protective, I don’t know...but that’s understandable also, these awful things in our lives have different impacts on us as people...and he’s had to cope with stuff from the media from childhood that William never has...his parenthood was always questioned also...I can’t imagine the pain that has caused him through his life...all in all, the Royals have some pretty screwed aspects to their family, as can be said for any of us...And what I love about Harry and Meghan is that they represent the ‘any of us’ aspect in so many ways...sadly though, they have that extra pressure of the media which is immense and very damaging...

[bitontheslide]

if your mother had been killed as a result of press hounding, i think your perception of the press would change profoundly forever. If i'm honest, I think Harry's reaction to the press now is much more believable than William being all pals with them. I know I couldn't be pals with a group that had killed my mother, so for me, I'm with Harry all the way

[AnnieK]

William and Harry will have been treated differently as children. As the heir to the throne, William has been conditioned since birth to that role, Harry will always have played second fiddle. When their mum died, Harry was the younger and trying to process that grief and emotion in front of the nation must have been torture for him whereas William was slightly older and will have been conditioned more to have the stiff upper lip required of the monarchy. Both boys have not been allowed to grieve their mother in a normal way and for Harry that has manifested in aa real dislike of the media and the urge to protect his family from them. Meghan has been thrust into the pomp and circumstance of the Royals....it was never going to be easy. The fact that she was a "star" in her own right before has probably made that harder for her. She will have been used to "yes men" around her but now she has tradition etc to deal with, along with the issues that face any new mum and wife.

The interest in them is becoming almost unhealthy and I do think they need time as a family away from the glare of the spotlight,just for them.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

William and Harry will have been treated differently as children. As the heir to the throne, William has been conditioned since birth to that role, Harry will always have played second fiddle. When their mum died, Harry was the younger and trying to process that grief and emotion in front of the nation must have been torture for him whereas William was slightly older and will have been conditioned more to have the stiff upper lip required of the monarchy. Both boys have not been allowed to grieve their mother in a normal way and for Harry that has manifested in aa real dislike of the media and the urge to protect his family from them. Meghan has been thrust into the pomp and circumstance of the Royals....it was never going to be easy. The fact that she was a "star" in her own right before has probably made that harder for her. She will have been used to "yes men" around her but now she has tradition etc to deal with, along with the issues that face any new mum and wife.

The interest in them is becoming almost unhealthy and I do think they need time as a family away from the glare of the spotlight,just for them.

Indeed... William has been groomed to be king (and Kate to be his queen), we'll never get to glimpse their innermost thoughts.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if your mother had been killed as a result of press hounding, i think your perception of the press would change profoundly forever. If i'm honest, I think Harry's reaction to the press now is much more believable than William being all pals with them. I know I couldn't be pals with a group that had killed my mother, so for me, I'm with Harry all the way

...I think we just all process stuff differently...and there’s always been a thought process of William and Harry being closely bonded...that image of them both at Diana’s funeral and a ‘protection’ the nation has felt toward them...?...but they’ve always been entirely different in their characters and I don’t think the Royal family in general is a situation which is nurturing to close sibling bonds...as their differences have been more and more apparent, they’ve been compared...which is silly...and then that’s transferred to their wives...(..and as we know, females are often judged to harsher standards in society.....)...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

William and Harry will have been treated differently as children. As the heir to the throne, William has been conditioned since birth to that role, Harry will always have played second fiddle. When their mum died, Harry was the younger and trying to process that grief and emotion in front of the nation must have been torture for him whereas William was slightly older and will have been conditioned more to have the stiff upper lip required of the monarchy. Both boys have not been allowed to grieve their mother in a normal way and for Harry that has manifested in aa real dislike of the media and the urge to protect his family from them. Meghan has been thrust into the pomp and circumstance of the Royals....it was never going to be easy. The fact that she was a "star" in her own right before has probably made that harder for her. She will have been used to "yes men" around her but now she has tradition etc to deal with, along with the issues that face any new mum and wife.

The interest in them is becoming almost unhealthy and I do think they need time as a family away from the glare of the spotlight,just for them.

..I think that the interest in them is a viscous circle, sadly...just as it was with Diana...?...it’s like history repeating itself, they’re reaching out to so many people and speaking of their issues and so the media are lapped into a frenzy as they enhance those issues to their fullest...?...I do think that ‘bullying’ isn’t too strong a word in how the media have been with Meghan at times...and of course, bullies always blame the victim...which is what is also happening...

[Cherie]

I think people have short memories, Kate had a torrid time in the media, anyone remember waity Katie, pretty sure they sued as well when she was photographed topless on holiday, they have learned how to manage the media, in all honesty I don't think there is that much media interest in Harry and Meghan, no where near the levels Diana was subjected to at any rate, and they seem happy enough to have some media presence like when Harry was lecturing us minions on not flying too much just before he jumped on a private plane, you can't have it both ways, just get out of it all if its affecting you that much.

[Cherie]

on a separate note did anyone see Archie in the African documentary, just so cute

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think people have short memories, Kate had a torrid time in the media, anyone remember waity Katie, pretty sure they sued as well when she was photographed topless on holiday, they have learned how to manage the media, in all honesty I don't think there is that much media interest in Harry and Meghan, no where near the levels Diana was subjected to at any rate, and they seem happy enough to have some media presence like when Harry was lecturing us minions on not flying too much just before he jumped on a private plane, you can't have it both ways, just get out of it all if its affecting you that much.

Obviously far less attention than Diana but we should also not forget that for Diana (before it all unraveled, at least) the vast majority of the press attention was positive, whereas for Meghan it's HUGELY negative to the point of outright trolling, and also there's social media to contend with. In fact, I'd say it's worth pointing out that the media landscape - again, especially social media - has changed dramatically since even William and Kate's early days.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if your mother had been killed as a result of press hounding, i think your perception of the press would change profoundly forever. If i'm honest, I think Harry's reaction to the press now is much more believable than William being all pals with them. I know I couldn't be pals with a group that had killed my mother, so for me, I'm with Harry all the way

William's position is different though. I'm sure he hates the press just as much as Harry but as heir, he's not in a position to voice it. I have warmed to Meghan a bit, but she's not my favourite royal... however I do understand Harry's reaction to her treatment by the press... and not just the press, social media and morons like Farage... If only people would stop buying the rags that print outrageous stuff. I'm a royalist, I have no interest in reading about them in the papers mainly because you never know if it's made up entirely, or the truth, heavily embroidered.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

on a separate note did anyone see Archie in the African documentary, just so cute

He is gorgeous. Officially the second most beautiful baby in the country...…..