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Old 18-08-2019, 03:45 PM #1
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Brexit party MEPs’ links to alt-right media agenda exposed
Nigel Farage and his MEPs have appeared on shows hosting conspiracy theorists and Holocaust deniers

Brexit party politicians appeared on programmes that have hosted conspiracy theorists and promoted the views of prominent figures on the hard right, an analysis has found.

Nigel Farage’s party, which won the most UK seats in the European elections only months after its launch, is still scoring above 10% in the polls and could prevent prime minister Boris Johnson securing a majority in a snap general election.

It has steered away from the hard-right policies pursued by Farage’s former party, Ukip. However, several MEPs have appeared on shows that have broadcast conspiracy theories and retweeted messages from alt-right figures, according to the anti-racism campaign Hope Not Hate. It also found MEPs had retweeted prominent figures on the far right.

The investigation found that the MEPs Ann Widdecombe and David Bull had appeared on the Richie Allen Show, an internet radio programme that has hosted antisemitic conspiracy theorists and Holocaust deniers. Widdecombe appeared on 10 April, just before Kevin Barrett, a contributor to the antisemitic conspiracy theory magazine American Free Press.

Bull was a guest on 30 April, tweeting that the experience was a “pleasure”, linking to his interview via the website Conspiracy Daily Update. He was followed on that episode by Lana Lokteff, the American white nationalist broadcaster.

Stuart Waiton, a Brexit party hopeful for Dundee West and an unsuccessful MEP candidate in Scotland, appeared on the show five times between June 2018 and May 2019.

Farage appeared in an online documentary, Bilderberg: The Movie (2014), alongside a number of conspiracy theorists. He tells the film: “I’ve tried very hard not to believe in conspiracy theories, but I’ve been here now for over 15 years, and I can see there is a move towards supranationalism ... I’ve got to know over the years the Van Rompuys, the Schulzes, you know, the Barrosos, even the Junckers, the Timmermans, and it’s completely clear, they actually want to destroy the nation state as a unit.”

Farage and his MEPs Michael Heaver, Nathan Gill and Martin Daubney have shared the tweets of Jack Posobiec, a promoter of the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory, which claimed a Washington pizzeria was a front for a paedophile ring that stretched to the top of the Democratic party. Other figures to be retweeted by Brexit party MEPs include Mark Collett, a former BNP figure, Stefan Molyneux, a far-right Canadian YouTuber, and Mike Cernovich, who has kept a blog promoting men’s rights, anti-feminism and misogynist pick-up artistry.

Matthew McGregor, campaigns director of Hope Not Hate, said: “The Brexit party has come from nowhere to be the potential kingmaker in the next parliament. These figures – some of whom promote racists, appear on conspiracy theory radio shows, and push divisive rhetoric – could be MPs in a few weeks. The idea of Nigel Farage having a say over the future direction of the country used to be a joke, but it’s time to take his dangerous and divisive party very seriously.

“Farage says he wants to dissociate himself from Ukip’s far-right positioning. If so, he needs to act quickly to sack any MEP or parliamentary candidate who has promoted far-right figures and dissociate his party from these dangerous conspiracy theorists. If he doesn’t, it will be clearer than ever that his party should face a concerted campaign against them at the general election.”

A Brexit party spokesman dismissed the findings, saying: “This has to be the biggest false start in archaeology since the discovery of Piltdown man [a hoax in which bones were presented as the fossilised remains of an early human]. A series of tangential, transient retweets. There again, if that is the worst they can find, then their donors will be upset with all the waste of research funding.”

Polling of voters sympathetic to the Brexit party suggests they are deeply concerned about multiculturalism, wary of Islam and overwhelmingly want to leave the EU without a deal: 84% want a no-deal Brexit.

The polling found that 71% believe a wide variety of backgrounds and cultures has undermined British culture, 67% said on the whole immigration has been a bad thing for Britain and 63% think Islam is generally a threat to the British way of life.

They also have strong anti-establishment views: 83% think that political correctness is used by the liberal elite to limit what we can say and 79% think that political correctness is causing the police and media to deliberately play down the ethnic background of some child sex abusers.

The figures are based on polling by YouGov of 934 people with a favourable view of the Brexit party. The survey was carried out online from 26 April to 1 May.
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"Farage appeared in an online documentary, Bilderberg: The Movie (2014),"


Thats way back before the vote
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Thats way back before the vote
no one cares
Didnt realize "the vote" is a mark in history akin to the birth of christ
It was only 5 years ago

Some of us care very much about farage and his bunch of bigots
Always worth keeping an eye on
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Didnt realize "the vote" is a mark in history akin to the birth of christ
It was only 5 years ago

Some of us care very much about farage and his bunch of bigots
Always worth keeping an eye on
True.. are we to believe he's left those alliances behind? ..nah.
He might if distanced himself but only to ingratiate himself with fascist grandees.

Sad to see those who idolise him with their fingers in their ears... lalalalala
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True.. are we to believe he's left those alliances behind? ..nah.
He might if distanced himself but only to ingratiate himself with fascist grandees.

Sad to see those who idolise him with their fingers in their ears... lalalalala
says someone who loves Corbyn, who regularly appeared on Iranian tv
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Yeah bc selling arms to Saudis is so much better
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Who from the o/p has sold arms?
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You mean they wouldn't?
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You mean they wouldn't?
It's a bit of a nonsequitor, the thread is about politicians going on platforms hosted by awful people, not selling weapons.
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You see this is where your whataboutism falls flat...There's a big difference between going to other countries in your capacity as a diplomat to discuss human rights issues which is what corbyn did to promote change... and farage who simply aims to perpetuate far right ideology, was his aim as an MEP to challenge or reject regressive views? No, only to bolster them and sweep said views westward.
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It's a bit of a nonsequitor, the thread is about politicians going on platforms hosted by awful people, not selling weapons.
It's linked and apt... theres nothing wrong with making a link, we host arms fairs all the time to human rights violators and far from attempting to facilitate peace we just take their money....
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now this i do believe, far right elite scum who do not give a damn about the middle class and poor british people

also i believe that Corbyn has more been painted like anti-semitic by those who feel threatened by him

anyways Corbyn had many visits in my country, to our labour (PVDA) leader Asscher and he Always was friendly, genuine and talking about labour in uk and labour party here in my country

Farage though, he was in our talk show Jensen! and he just insulted our PM Rutte for ''merkel's lap dog'' i don't like rutte myself, but farage as a guest in my country you don't get that right to insult one of our politicians, and Rutte, Merkel just have respect for each other's views, how to lead a country etc


so brexit party their statements of ''we don't trust the eu'' ''eu doesn't respect us'' well the EU has given UK plenty of time, respect, but now time has run out, we are annoyed with this seemingly neverending brexit chaos, we in europe are also not scared of britain's project fear aimed at us, we are prepared for a no deal, but we want the best for the poor in britain and a no deal is definitely not that
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now this i do believe, far right elite scum who do not give a damn about the middle class and poor british people

also i believe that Corbyn has more been painted like anti-semitic by those who feel threatened by him

anyways Corbyn had many visits in my country, to our labour (PVDA) leader Asscher and he Always was friendly, genuine and talking about labour in uk and labour party here in my country

Farage though, he was in our talk show Jensen! and he just insulted our PM Rutte for ''merkel's lap dog'' i don't like rutte myself, but farage as a guest in my country you don't get that right to insult one of our politicians, and Rutte, Merkel just have respect for each other's views, how to lead a country etc


so brexit party their statements of ''we don't trust the eu'' ''eu doesn't respect us'' well the EU has given UK plenty of time, respect, but now time has run out, we are annoyed with this seemingly neverending brexit chaos, we in europe are also not scared of britain's project fear aimed at us, we are prepared for a no deal, but we want the best for the poor in britain and a no deal is definitely not that
Thanks for that Nicky, it's kind of how I thought brexit was translating to the rest of Europe.
Corbyn refuses to grandstand or make personal comments which is one of the reasons I support him.
Farage conversely has made a career of doing just that and little else.
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