[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Labour should consider voting for a Boris Johnson Brexit deal in exchange for the promise of a referendum, the shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, has told the Guardian.

Waste of paper and breath neither Johnson or Corbyn would entertain that stupid idea. Wherrs her head at? :/

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I never said I wanted to be English, I said its a cardinal sin in some eyes if you say you like the English

Sorry Cherie...but you did say you wanted to be English."I quite like the English and am battered for wanting to be English"

Never mentioned any cardinal sin.

I don't think it is soley a matter that we consider ourselfes Irish.We just are.Ireland is my country..my childrens home..There is no where else I would rather live.

Tis an awfull mess..Would love to see a deal but sadly it seems to be slipping away

[lime]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's disgusting and very offensive to those people who have suffered someone who has been beheaded,if it had been anyone else people would have been in an uproar, stupid stunt,not funny and not clever ,bloody moron.

Just sickening behaviour..not funny at all

But you never answered my question of why you think the Irish "are as corroupt as they come"?

If you misunderstood ...I am not claiming you signalled out us Irish as corrupt..But we Irish are the EU..by no means are we the big players but the EU will never sell one of their own out otherwise the EU is finished..

I know the Telegraph ..Express DM will tell you different.It's simply not true

[Kizzy]

Well there you have it...That's why the Irish dislike the English, because we would sell someone out as soon as look at them even our own.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

Sorry Cherie...but you did say you wanted to be English."I quite like the English and am battered for wanting to be English"

Never mentioned any cardinal sin.

I don't think it is soley a matter that we consider ourselfes Irish.We just are.Ireland is my country..my childrens home..There is no where else I would rather live.

Tis an awfull mess..Would love to see a deal but sadly it seems to be slipping away

Pretty sure I said for ‘liking The English, or ‘liking living in England’ if that is not what I said it was a typo , if I wanted to be English I would apply for citizenship, and I was offered the opportunity to apply for settled status which as an Irish citizen I don’t need to do so I declined so just to be clear I would never want to give up my Irish citizenship but am very settled in England


Don’t give up on a deal yet Lime

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lime

Just sickening behaviour..not funny at all

But you never answered my question of why you think the Irish "are as corroupt as they come"?

If you misunderstood ...I am not claiming you signalled out us Irish as corrupt..But we Irish are the EU..by no means are we the big players but the EU will never sell one of their own out otherwise the EU is finished..

I know the Telegraph ..Express DM will tell you different.It's simply not true

Sorry lime I would have answered you earlier, as far as I know Ireland is part of the UK, not the EU but now you point it out, I see what you mean,but hopefully Ireland,England,Wales and Scotland can stay United, no way was I wanting to push Ireland out, I am half Irish myself and have lots of relatives there, so imo you are part of us.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry lime I would have answered you earlier, as far as I know Ireland is part of the UK, not the EU but now you point it out, I see what you mean,but hopefully Ireland,England,Wales and Scotland can stay United, no way was I wanting to push Ireland out, I am half Irish myself and have lots of relatives there, so imo you are part of us.

I think Lime is in Republic of Ireland, not Northern Kaz, so they are not part of the UK and so a member of the EU in their own right.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think Lime is in Republic of Ireland, not Northern Kaz, so they are not part of the UK and so a member of the EU in their own right.

Oh right Annie,thanks for telling me, I didn't realize. I learn something new everyday Annie x

[lime]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Pretty sure I said for ‘liking The English, or ‘liking living in England’ if that is not what I said it was a typo , if I wanted to be English I would apply for citizenship, and I was offered the opportunity to apply for settled status which as an Irish citizen I don’t need to do so I declined so just to be clear I would never want to give up my Irish citizenship but am very settled in England


Don’t give up on a deal yet Lime

[lime]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think Lime is in Republic of Ireland, not Northern Kaz, so they are not part of the UK and so a member of the EU in their own right.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh right Annie,thanks for telling me, I didn't realize. I learn something new everyday Annie x

You are joking right? Surely you knew Ireland is not part of the UK.?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry lime I would have answered you earlier, as far as I know Ireland is part of the UK, not the EU but now you point it out, I see what you mean,but hopefully Ireland,England,Wales and Scotland can stay United, no way was I wanting to push Ireland out, I am half Irish myself and have lots of relatives there, so imo you are part of us.

Are you for ****ing real?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry lime I would have answered you earlier, as far as I know Ireland is part of the UK, not the EU but now you point it out, I see what you mean,but hopefully Ireland,England,Wales and Scotland can stay United, no way was I wanting to push Ireland out, I am half Irish myself and have lots of relatives there, so imo you are part of us.

I'm sorry Kaz but I have to say, this isn't a minor misunderstanding or "Wups", this is a gap in knowledge that means you can't possibly have ANY idea what the major issues with Brexit are or why it's so hard to secure a deal. If you didn't realise that the Republic of Ireland isn't part of the UK then you literally can't have a valid opinion on Brexit. That might sound extreme but... It is what it is. It's like having an opinion on dogs, but then it turns out you thought a dog was a type of fish.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm sorry Kaz but I have to say, this isn't a minor misunderstanding or "Wups", this is a gap in knowledge that means you can't possibly have ANY idea what the major issues with Brexit are or why it's so hard to secure a deal. If you didn't realise that the Republic of Ireland isn't part of the UK then you literally can't have a valid opinion on Brexit. That might sound extreme but... It is what it is. It's like having an opinion on dogs, but then it turns out you thought a dog was a type of fish.

That's fine I wont bother commenting on it anymore, no need for some peoples attitudes on here tbh.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fine I wont bother commenting on it anymore, no need for some peoples attitudes on here tbh.

Yeah no need at all, just an innocent misunderstanding like thinking England is part if France

[Toy Soldier]

There does seem to be a lot of confusion with this. Especially with people using the terms "Great Britain" and "The UK" interchangeably. Great Britain is a geographical term for the larger island of the British Isles. It does NOT include Northern Ireland. Which actually makes "Brexit" a misnomer.

Republic of Ireland IS part of "The British Isles" but that is a geographical term and has nothing to do with politics. It is not part of the UK.

Northern Ireland is part of The UK, but not part of Great Britain, which should be evident from the full name: "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

[Twosugars]

Theres nothing wrong with our attitudes on this Kazanne.

TS is perfectly right. You cannot understand the backstop issue or rather you misunderstood it dreadfully
But I'm shocked, actually speechless.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah no need at all, just an innocent misunderstanding like thinking England is part if France

Don't worry Niamh, I have been asked multiple times (usually by people from the US) "What part of England is Scotland in?"



Then again I did nearly type "from America" there and I suppose its quite offensive to people from Canada and South America that the world tends to use the word "Americans" to talk about people from The US, when America is the entire continent.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There does seem to be a lot of confusion with this. Especially with people using the terms "Great Britain" and "The UK" interchangeably. Great Britain is a geographical term for the larger island of the British Isles. It does NOT include Northern Ireland. Which actually makes "Brexit" a misnomer.

Republic of Ireland IS part of "The British Isles" but that is a geographical term and has nothing to do with politics. It is not part of the UK.

Northern Ireland is part of The UK, but not part of Great Britain, which should be evident from the full name: "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

British Isles need to be renamed anyway, the Irish didn't name them and its factually incorrect

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fine I wont bother commenting on it anymore, no need for some peoples attitudes on here tbh.

everyone makes mistakes i guess

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There does seem to be a lot of confusion with this. Especially with people using the terms "Great Britain" and "The UK" interchangeably. Great Britain is a geographical term for the larger island of the British Isles. It does NOT include Northern Ireland. Which actually makes "Brexit" a misnomer.

Republic of Ireland IS part of "The British Isles" but that is a geographical term and has nothing to do with politics. It is not part of the UK.

Northern Ireland is part of The UK, but not part of Great Britain, which should be evident from the full name: "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".

But surely schools in this country must explain that pretty early
And then every day life, the media
I know in this country teaching history becomes optional far too early but still
We are not talking of some distant shores ffs

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Don't worry Niamh, I have been asked multiple times (usually by people from the US) "What part of England is Scotland in?"



Then again I did nearly type "from America" there and I suppose its quite offensive to people from Canada and South America that the world tends to use the word "Americans" to talk about people from The US, when America is the entire continent.

I know, I just wouldn't have expected it from someone who is actually from England, i mean do ye not learn your own Geography atleast in school? Clearly you only have a cherry picked version of your history in Britain

[Twosugars]

General education in this country has a lot to answer for.
When you see those people on big brother asking the most inane questions I thought they were joking or playing dumb

I'm not kidding you, one day on pointless there was a student of english literature who never heard of Dickens
We are doomed as civilisation if such ignorance is allowed

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

But surely schools in this country must explain that pretty early
And then every day life, the media
I know in this country teaching history becomes optional far too early but still
We are not talking of some distant shores ffs

geography was my personal fave subject at school

i Always recognize england, scotland, northern ireland, wales as separate countries, and i Always thought a sort of deal made them the United Kingdom

i also recognize Faroe Islands as a country even though they got those ties to denmark, but they are apart from financial support, quite independent people, also with own faroese music, faroese language (a strong bit different dialect to danish)

[Cherie]

Tbf to Kazanne, I recall Smithy doing much the same thing, there does seem to be a genuine lack of understanding about the Irish situation, I have had people ask me before the is it safe to travel to the Republic because of the bombs I don't believe Irish history makes it onto the curriculum here, but it should