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Old 14-09-2019, 06:05 PM #1
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Default The LibDem Conference Bournemouth.




They now want to Revoke
without asking any public.



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They now want to Revoke
without asking any public.


Looks like they have seen the result of my 'what would you do about Brexit' TiBB forum poll.

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Well Done Marr
who pointed out to Jo Swinson
on his show "you can not go from 18 MP's
to 300 MP's to win a General Election."



She is Deluded
to say she can win a General Election
Fact.

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Well Done Marr
who pointed out to Jo Swinson
on his show "you can not go from 18 MP's
to 300 MP's to win a General Election."



She is Deluded
to say she can win a General Election
Fact.

This has always been the problem with the Libs, the Alliance and then Lib Dems.

They know, they could be as high as 30%, The Cons on 28% even and Labour 3rd on 25%.
This would still leave under this daft first past the post system.
The Cons largest Party
Labour 2nd.
Lib Dems not far but still comfortably behind Labour.

That is a pure fact.

Then as Swinson did this morning, the Lib Dems not saying where they'd lean.

From experience, its clear after 2010, they would lean more to the Cons.
Maybe not at present on brexit.
However can they be trusted.
In my view no.

As she was told, going from 18 seats to over 300 is as near impossible as it can be, with our voting system.

Voting Lib Dem thinking you can get rid of the Cons is folly.
If we had PR, fine, no extremes of parties could then likely succeed.

However its still as it has been for many decades since Labour rose to be a party of power.

If you want a Con government. Vote Con.
If you don't, vote Labour.

I think an election now is likely to result in another hung parliament.
Voting Lib Dem will ensure that more than likely, and result in a Con led government again.

This vote to revoke article 50.
Is a concern if not asking the voters again.
A general election asks lots of questions.
It can't be the means to decide brexit.

Sadly, despite the mess the 2 main parties are in.
The Lib Dems fence sitting, falsely believing they can win outright, js their trying to have it all ways stance again.
Which is likely to leave them with nothing in any way at all, and the UK stuck with a very extreme and worrying Con government.

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Yes Jo
thinks Labour must change their leader
to get a Coalition Power.

She is a Fool.
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Cant deny I'm not a fan of hers
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Cant deny I'm not a fan of hers


Nothing wrong with that
but with First Past the Post
its impossible for her to be PM
at the next General Election

She is a Utter Fool saying she will win
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Nothing wrong with that
but with First Past the Post
its impossible for her to be PM
at the next General Election

She is a Utter Fool saying she will win
She knows that.
But it's a convention all parties talk as if they could win. Their manifestos are based on that assumption too.
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My memory doesn't fade as quickly as some voters.
Jo Swinson is a person I can't forget the things she supported just up to 5 years ago.

The heartless degrading testing of the sick and disabled, the bedroom tax, the NHS top down reorganisation promised would never happen, the trebling of tuition fees and all the austerity cuts.

All things she'd still have supported after 2015 had it been possible to keep that coalition with the Cons going on.

So I'd neither trust her or support her.
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The Lib Dems to me, haven't moved forward with her as leader, to me they've moved back to a dark place with her as leader.

I hope most voters recall her heartless, hard-line position in the coalition, as a Minister in it too.
Before they put a cross next to her and the Lib Dems.
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Jo Swinson has gone all 3 morning TV shows
claiming if she wins the next Election
she will Revoke Brexit No Vote.

Again its impossible for her to go from 18 MP's
to 300 MP's to Win the next Election
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Jo Swinson has gone all 3 morning TV shows
claiming if she wins the next Election
she will Revoke Brexit No Vote.

Again its impossible for her to go from 18 MP's
to 300 MP's to Win the next Election
She was in a bit of a fluster on GMTV when she was challenged by Piers, and called out on her lying
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Yes Great Clip from 2016 he Played to her
Paddy Ashdown saying respect the vote.



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I'd rather stay in the EU myself or have Labours plan for A customs union and staying as tight to the economic parts of the EU.
While out the political elements.

However I agree any deal, or no deal should now have a confirmatory vote held on it.

Swinson and the Lib Dems are wrong to go for staying in without a new public vote.

I said on another thread, governments don't get over 50% of votes in elections.

Even if she were to rise to over 300 seats from 18.
She's totally deluded, again.
That would not have over 50% of voters support.

The Lib Dems are on the deceit road again.
She has a shocking recent history of breaking what the Lib Dems called cast iron promises.
Only up to 4 years ago too.
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Radio 4 Presenter upset her
saying TV Election debates can freeze her out.
He said Sky , BBC and ITV are having behind the
scenes talks to not have LibDem in the debates.


Well it could be a Rush
and it is between Johnson PM
and The Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn
in our next General Election.
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Back in 2008
she wanted a Referendum

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I love arista viewing what she says with complete skepticism, whilst at the same time believing everything provable liars have said during the same time frame.

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jeez I am literally PARTYLESS ....
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