[Kizzy]

The definition of insanity is repeating an action but expecting a different result. .. I liken that to people who consistently vote conservative. When will austerity be over? When will things be better?
They have done nothing but drag this country down, I could quote stat after stat but it's been done to death.

[Scarlett.]

I honestly don't get why people still vote Tory after the absolute mess of the last 9 years.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's the same here. A lot of the larger nearby towns are poor and plagued with drugs and unemployment, Universal Credit has been a disaster for the area, and yet there's a strong Tory vote in the POORER areas, while the village I live in (fairly affluent) which was traditionally full of Conservative posters, is now heavily leaning to SNP. Bizarre times. Like I said though, the Tories are going to lose that working class vote eventually because its a fickle vote... And when they do, they're going to find it near impossible to regain the traditional Tory vote that they've traded away.

The sad thing is, I don't think the Tories will ever lose that vote. These people won't wise up to the fact that the Tories treat them terribly as long as they keep going along with the Brexit fantasy and empty words about immigrants. It's too convenient for those people to blame scapegoats and whoever the Tories tell them to blame then to accept they've been voting against themselves.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I honestly don't get why people still vote Tory after the absolute mess of the last 9 years.

The fantasies the Tories peddle are more preferable to these voters than the truth of the state of the country we live in.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Their popularity with the middle classes upwards was always based in the perception of them being "the financially responsible party", or to use their own recent mantra, "Strong and Stable". As things stand in 2019... the Tories with Brexit have created the most financially irresponsible, unpredictable and unstable situations in the history of the UK.

Whilst the working classes have started to see them as the "daddy no-nonsense" party who is going to get rid of Johnny Foreigner wots causing all the problems and delivering Brexit "for the people".

They're going to sweep this election but in the long run they are in serious, serious trouble... their new support is fickle and HEAVILY rooted in the Brexit debate, it'll slip through their fingers like sand when it's (eventually) done, however it ends, but they will never regain the "sensible vote" of the middle-income middle-class that they've thrown to the wolves.

This.

Let them enjoy a short term success I say.

[Nicky91]

anyone who's anti-immigration is evil to me

in my country i HATE geert wilders for that reason


being anti-immigration equals provoking terrorism

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

anyone who's anti-immigration is evil to me

in my country i HATE geert wilders for that reason


being anti-immigration equals provoking terrorism

Yes Geert
keeps busy.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The definition of insanity is repeating an action but expecting a different result. .. I liken that to people who consistently vote conservative. When will austerity be over? When will things be better?
They have done nothing but drag this country down, I could quote stat after stat but it's been done to death.

calling people who vote a different way to you "insane" is frankly ridiculous. cant you see that its you that has issues if you do that??

i mean really?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The fantasies the Tories peddle are more preferable to these voters than the truth of the state of the country we live in.

who are you voting for?

not the lib dems again?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

who are you voting for?

not the lib dems again?

you don't need to ask this, and he doesn't need to answer you


honestly i Always thought it's better to keep whoever your voting for, for yourself, and not share it with anyone

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

you don't need to ask this, and he doesn't need to answer you


honestly i Always thought it's better to keep whoever your voting for, for yourself, and not share it with anyone

thanks Nicky but its not your question and Dezzy knows that already

[bitontheslide]

i believe tories are more popular than the lib dems among squirrels too

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I honestly don't get why people still vote Tory after the absolute mess of the last 9 years.

because you are not old enough to remember further back probably

[Cal.]

Anyway I’m the only person who knows what’s best

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

because you are not old enough to remember further back probably

wow, throwing it onto ''i'm old i'm wise, you're young'' condescending crap

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

wow, throwing it onto ''i'm old i'm wise, you're young'' condescending crap

its a fact, if you are say 21 you will not remember more than about 9 years ago politically - you may have read stuff but you wont recall living through it and indeed its wholly different being at home living rent free and being looked after by parents than it is in the next 10 years of a 21 year old when they have to pay rent, mortgage, food, car etc and work for a living (in general). Its then that politics really affects your life personally

broadly speaking as there are many exceptions like yourself, at home at 28 and not working or paying any outgoings

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

because you are not old enough to remember further back probably

I'm 29, I can remember all the way back to John Major. Back when the Tories were at least a little more sensible. Now they're a shambles. These last 9 years have been a mess.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I'm 29, I can remember all the way back to John Major. Back when the Tories were at least a little more sensible. Now they're a shambles. These last 9 years have been a mess.

English politics has been a mess, no side has been anything other than shambolic.

Its a disgrace

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

English politics has been a mess, no side has been anything other than shambolic.

Its a disgrace

Got to agree with that. It's gone completely tits-up.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

calling people who vote a different way to you "insane" is frankly ridiculous. cant you see that its you that has issues if you do that??

i mean really?

I can't change the definition can I? If you vote for something and the situation gets 100 times worse then you vote in exactly same way in the vain hope things will change then the comparison is entirely apt.

[The Slim Reaper]

9 years of tory austerity and practically doubling the debt, but it's all politics that are to blame, not the party in charge.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

because you are not old enough to remember further back probably

How far do you want to go back....Orgreave? Peterloo?