[Cherie]

Good for him, but it has to be down to personal choice, stopping eating meat alone will not safe the planet, I agree with Livia that the amount of plastic stuff sold needs to be addressed, and packaging should be top of that list, is there any reason sweet companies cannot provide tins which can be recycled, it used to be tins of sweets not plastic boxes of sweets or some form of recyclable cardboard instead, floor to ceiling displays of plastic boxes of sweets and biscuits this time of year are sickening in all honesty

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I watched a programme on TV about young people turning to vegetarianism and veganism and not knowing how to eat a balanced diet, and their parents not knowing either. I think it's a worry... but it's not like it's an underground thing, there's plenty of info around.

Which programme was that? There are literally 100s of good quality books on veganism and vegitarianism. To say you don't know how or where to begin now does seem a bit ignorant. If you're not sufficiently prepared or educated the maybe it isn't for you.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Good for him, but it has to be down to personal choice, stopping eating meat alone will not safe the planet, I agree with Livia that the amount of plastic stuff sold needs to be addressed, and packaging should be top of that list, is there any reason sweet companies cannot provide tins which can be recycled, it used to be tins of sweets not plastic boxes of sweets or some form of recyclable cardboard instead, floor to ceiling displays of plastic boxes of sweets and biscuits this time of year are sickening in all honesty

Sickening. that's a good choice of words.

[LeatherTrumpet]

the problem is too many people and Africa is the huge issue going forward. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Africa should be limited to one child only. Ideally a total ban on procreation there save nomadic tribes (ie in city areas). From the west all flights for holidays stopped forthwith with only essential travel by plane.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

Sickening. that's a good choice of words.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Good for him, but it has to be down to personal choice, stopping eating meat alone will not safe the planet, I agree with Livia that the amount of plastic stuff sold needs to be addressed, and packaging should be top of that list, is there any reason sweet companies cannot provide tins which can be recycled, it used to be tins of sweets not plastic boxes of sweets or some form of recyclable cardboard instead, floor to ceiling displays of plastic boxes of sweets and biscuits this time of year are sickening in all honesty

Who said it would?.. there are literally 100s of factors that would need to be addressed in order to save the planet. This thread deals with one. It's not helpful to throw about the usual whataboutism, it's counterproductive.
Make a thread about plastic waste or consumerism if you like.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the problem is too many people and Africa is the huge issue going forward. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Africa should be limited to one child only. Ideally a total ban on procreation there save nomadic tribes (ie in city areas). From the west all flights for holidays stopped forthwith with only essential travel by plane.

I think most would prefer to put dairy and beef farmers out of business first

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the problem is too many people and Africa is the huge issue going forward. India, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Africa should be limited to one child only. Ideally a total ban on procreation there save nomadic tribes (ie in city areas). From the west all flights for holidays stopped forthwith with only essential travel by plane.

Again, overpopulation is an issue...but not for this thread.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who said it would?.. there are literally 100s of factors that would need to be addressed in order to save the planet. This thread deals with one. It's not helpful to throw about the usual whataboutism, it's counterproductive.
Make a thread about plastic waste or consumerism if you like.

I said it...we don't need to make individual threads for something that is linked to the demise of the planet which is the point of this thread, and I will not be ordered about by you kizzy

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Again, overpopulation is an issue...but not for this thread.

why what is this thread about please?

[Kizzy]

Well no matter I see the way the threads going, David Attenborough has gone veggie so nobody can fly on planes and all cattle farmers should go out of business.
I'm going to leave you to it. I've said my piece thanks.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I can see eventually, synthetic meats taking the place of real meats.

But that would cost MORE

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well no matter I see the way the threads going, David Attenborough has gone veggie so nobody can fly on planes and all cattle farmers should go out of business.
I'm going to leave you to it. I've said my piece thanks.

how can you discuss the fact he has gone veggie, as he just has. the article states

"In a video, Attenborough “warned” that “we need to start making serious changes in order to combat climate change,"

so the causes of climate change are in the discussion, what on earth is your point as i dont get it and i am sure others may agree??

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

But that would cost MORE

yes see my thread about the Ł14 Impossible burger

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes see my thread about the Ł14 Impossible burger

Yes LT its Pathetic
these Poxy Veggies.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by arista

But that would cost MORE

Right now, yes it would, but as with all technology, the process would be streamlined I imagine, would eventually end up being much cheaper, given that there'd be no need to raise and feed a herd of farm animals, and has the added effect of being much greener.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Right now, yes it would, but as with all technology, the process would be streamlined I imagine, would eventually end up being much cheaper, given that there'd be no need to raise and feed a herd of farm animals, and has the added effect of being much greener.

Animals are needed

Veg and Vegans
are out numbered.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by arista

Animals are needed

Veg and Vegans
are out numbered.

Animals are needed yes, but we don't have to kill them, when the technology arrives to bring us synthetic meat, nothing would have to die to make it a reality. It's not something that is imminent, but it will eventually come.

[Kizzy]

Not quorn... That's nasty

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Animals are needed yes, but we don't have to kill them, when the technology arrives to bring us synthetic meat, nothing would have to die to make it a reality. It's not something that is imminent, but it will eventually come.

Farm Factory's
are needed for KFC
for a fast example

Meat is staying put
despite your views.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not quorn... That's nasty

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky, but it's still better than battery farming living sentient creatures to feed us.

If scientists perfect the way of making synthetic meats, we'd never have another "Chicken shortage at KFC" headline again

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky, but it's still better than battery farming living sentient creatures to feed us.

If scientists perfect the way of making synthetic meats, we'd never have another "Chicken shortage at KFC" headline again

There was NO Shortage
a Stupid CEO of KFC
tried a New Delivery service
to save money
and buggered it all up

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

There was NO Shortage
a Stupid CEO of KFC
tried a New Delivery service
to save money
and buggered it all up

The post of a man who didn't get his hot wings on that day.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I'm talking about lab grown meat, it sounds icky, but it's still better than battery farming living sentient creatures to feed us.

If scientists perfect the way of making synthetic meats, we'd never have another "Chicken shortage at KFC" headline again

Quorn is lab grown meat.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not quorn... That's nasty

Something we can agree on..awful