[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thanks to labour??, what an insult to Northern Ireland

wow

Pipe down

Labour brought them together. They brokered the peace process.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Dianne is a long standing mp, an excellent constituency mp.
Shes also close ideologically with corbyn so it's only natural she is in the shadow cabinet.

Yes, she is close to ideologically to Corbyn. They are both anti - British, IRA supporters.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk

Quote:
Diane Abbott backed victory for the IRA in an interview with a pro-republican journal, The Sunday Times has found.
Abbott, who will become home secretary if Labour wins the election, said in the 1984 interview that Ireland “is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed.”
The interview was found during research by The Sunday Times in Irish and republican archives

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, she is close to ideologically to Corbyn. They are both anti - British, IRA supporters.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk

Quote:
Diane Abbott backed victory for the IRA in an interview with a pro-republican journal, The Sunday Times has found.
Abbott, who will become home secretary if Labour wins the election, said in the 1984 interview that Ireland “is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed.”
The interview was found during research by The Sunday Times in Irish and republican archives

Hate to break it to you, but many people in the UK think NI should be united with ROI.
Dianne is not alone in this and it's certainly is not anti British. Britain occupied Ireland and the Irish have the right to self-determination.

[Twosugars]

Having said that it would require a referendum in the NI.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Hate to break it to you, but many people in the UK think NI should be united with ROI.
Dianne is not alone in this and it's certainly is not anti British. Britain occupied Ireland and the Irish have the right to self-determination.

that's complete nonsense

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but over 30 or 20 years ago.

She’s still a big player despite all of her cock-ups down the years

( that’s after the initial cock-up)




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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by jet

Jeremy Corbyn slammed for his ‘nice old grandpa act’ in Question Time face off.



https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/23/jerem...o=newsnow-feed

Old maybe ..


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I bet he would rather be called a nice old grandpa than a pale, stale male which apparently is now a perfectly acceptable term to describe white males

Another snipe... as I explained that is a well used phrase not media propaganda designed to smear Corbyn as too old to be PM.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Shes an electoral liability for lib dems

Imagine Corbyn and her joining forces and ruining ( sorry running ) the country


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[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Imagine Corbyn and her joining forces and ruining ( sorry running ) the country


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He’d never go into a coalition with Tories tyvm

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Dianne is a long standing mp, an excellent constituency mp.

Shes also close ideologically with corbyn so it's only natural she is in the shadow cabinet.

How was she doing before the fling with Corbyn ..


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[jet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Hate to break it to you, but many people in the UK think NI should be united with ROI.
Dianne is not alone in this and it's certainly is not anti British. Britain occupied Ireland and the Irish have the right to self-determination.

You aren't breaking anything to me dear, I've lived in N.Ireland all my life. Yes, they do have a right, through democratic consent of the majority which will likely happen in the next 5 - 10 years. I have no problem with democracy, its murder I have a problem with.
You agree with Dianne and Corbyn then that the IRA had a right to murder thousands of men, woman and children to acheive their aims rather than by peaceful political means? Okay.
FYI the ROI repeatedly said they couldnt afford us and were quite happy with the staus quo.
You are really ignorant on this subject.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He’d never go into a coalition with Tories tyvm

Needs must


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[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

You aren't breaking anything to me dear, I've lived in N.Ireland all my life. Yes, they do have a right, through democratic consent of the majority which will likely happen in the next 5 - 10 years. I have no problem with democracy, its murder I have a problem with.
You agree with Dianne and Corbyn then that the IRA had a right to murder thousands of men, woman and children to acheive their aims rather than by peaceful political means? Okay.
FYI the ROI repeatedly said they couldnt afford us and were quite happy with the staus quo.
You are really ignorant on this subject.

Whatever.
Create a dedicated thread about it if you want. We can discuss it there in detail.
Not arguing here with you.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's complete nonsense

Your powerful argument convinced me, not

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's complete nonsense

In a nutshell. He knows no better.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

In a nutshell. He knows no better.

whatever makes you feel better

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

that's complete nonsense

What makes you say that?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Another snipe... as I explained that is a well used phrase not media propaganda designed to smear Corbyn as too old to be PM.

A well used and accepted phrase by whom? why would you take issue with me using the phrase when you say its well used and accepted and it suited you to trot it out for those men in Teeside.

For the record I do not think it would be well used or accepted to describe anybody of any political persuasion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jet

You aren't breaking anything to me dear, I've lived in N.Ireland all my life. Yes, they do have a right, through democratic consent of the majority which will likely happen in the next 5 - 10 years. I have no problem with democracy, its murder I have a problem with.
You agree with Dianne and Corbyn then that the IRA had a right to murder thousands of men, woman and children to acheive their aims rather than by peaceful political means? Okay.
FYI the ROI repeatedly said they couldnt afford us and were quite happy with the staus quo.
You are really ignorant on this subject.

Indeed we have

[Kizzy]

Have you heard of Google?

[jet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Whatever.
Create a dedicated thread about it if you want. We can discuss it there in detail.
Not arguing here with you.

There is nothing to argue. You either support the terrorism of murdering thousands of innocents or you don't. Maybe if you lived in the midst of the carnage for over 30 years you would get it. Seems like that is what it would take for some people to open their eyes unfortunately, their excuses for the IRA's actions and for Corbyns/Abbotts support are ignorant and sickening.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by jet

There is nothing to argue. You either support the terrorism of murdering thousands of innocents or you don't. Maybe if you lived in the midst of the carnage for over 30 years you would get it. Seems like that is what it would take for some people to open their eyes unfortunately, their excuses for the IRA's actions and for Corbyns/Abbotts support are ignorant and sickening.

I dont support terrorism.
But it wasnt one sided was it. Plus Britain is responsible for oppression of the Irish for centuries.
We see around the world and through history that terrorists for some are freedom fighters for others.
We see former terrorists turning into later statemen.
That's how the world often works.

[Grim Reaper]

It seems to me that the best way to sort the shizer that we're all in and that we are all currently being fed by all sides, is by the judicious use of 36 barrels of gunpowder! Would be a dreadful shame to wreck the buildings though!

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes best you stick with Boris or Corbyn

Frankly I'd take either of them over her!