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Jack Merrit's Dad has asked that his son's death is not turned into a political football, and his wishes have been ignored
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To be fair, it's a big ask for Jack Merrit's death not to be politicised when it happened two weeks before the most important general election for a long, long time, and considering the history of mud-slinging from all sides of the political spectrum.
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Jack Merrit's Dad has asked that his son's death is not turned into a political football, and his wishes have been ignored

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I don't think it is too much to ask, if this hadn't happened they would have carried on campaigning at any rate on other issues, imagine if it were your son would you like ANY party to be making capital of his death
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I don't think it is too much to ask, if this hadn't happened they would have carried on campaigning at any rate on other issues, imagine if it were your son would you like ANY party to be making capital of his death

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Already people are changing who they Vote For
Labour is the Same
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I never said it was one party, you said that
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The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.

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yes, that's true

also the most important vote for you, what party can make a better country for you
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The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.
My son said the same thing
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The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.

Yes maybe that Terrorist
wanted to get this interrupting
He seems like he wanted to Die
with the fake bomb belt, on.


Johnson and Corbyn
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I think the 2017 attacks could have had an effect on the result of the following election. I remember Labour support increasing afterwards.
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i think all this politics at the expense of the two young people that died and their families is very distasteful. There was a time when political parties would have been respectful, that's sadly a time that will never be recovered. I'm ashamed of what our country has become.
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How were they tough they did nothing... it's only after the fact as usual that they attempt to suggest they take a 'hard line' on any given issue. Hard lines need funding, staffing and resources, all the Tories know how to do is cut, cut, cut.
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The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.
* puts on tin foil hat...

I can't say this thought didn't flash through my head :/
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I don't think it is too much to ask, if this hadn't happened they would have carried on campaigning at any rate on other issues, imagine if it were your son would you like ANY party to be making capital of his death
But the the public want to know what the responses are, if it had happened at any other time then of course there wouldn't be any politicising.
This cannot be ignored, it's a massive issue facing the country and it needs addressing. Had I been affected I would want to make sure this could never happen again, and I would expect accountability and change.
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Corybn still believes Terrorist should be released after half of their sentence, that man is not safe to run a country
This is an example of moral panic, there have been people being released for years and years who have not served a full term.
It is only an issue now due to other failings in identifying the threat he posed upon release. Only through a programme of deradicalisation can it be assessed how great a threat these people are, otherwise they always will be regardless of the length of time they spend in prison.
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But the the public want to know what the responses are, if it had happened at any other time then of course there wouldn't be any politicising.
This cannot be ignored, it's a massive issue facing the country and it needs addressing. Had I been affected I would want to make sure this could never happen again, and I would expect accountability and change.
You have not been affected, and your wishes have not been ignored, your rights are not more important than one of the families of the victims. No one is saying ignore it, what is being asked is that his sons name is not used to score cheap political points, it shouldn’t be too difficult to honour and quite frankly the fact that you are talking about what YOU would want in a similar situation rather than what the family going through it want is beyond words
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You have not been affected, and your wishes have not been ignored, your rights are not more important than one of the families of the victims. No one is saying ignore it, what is being asked is that his sons name is not used to score cheap political points, it shouldn’t be too difficult to honour and quite frankly the fact that you are talking about what YOU would want in a similar situation rather than what the family going through it want is beyond words
You said imagine it was your son Cherie! You asked me what I would do in the situation. :/
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He is back tracking today.
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You said imagine it was your son Cherie! You asked me what I would do in the situation. :/
No I didn't ask you, I was responding to Arista, that point was long gone by the time you waded in with what you would want, not everything is about you, we are dealing with the facts of what the family want here, and at any rate my point was imagine if it were your son and you asked for his death not to be used politically and it was ignored, I doubt even you would be happy kizzy
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