[Kazanne]

Maybe people should listen to this guy who has no agenda just talks sense. I dont now how to add FB videos so used the link

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=543786142953031

[Liam-]

No agenda? He’s one of the most vocal dedicated right wing trump supporters there are, he most definitely has an agenda

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No agenda? He’s one of the most vocal dedicated right wing trump supporters there are, he most definitely has an agenda

What did he say that was wrong ?

[LeatherTrumpet]

SO true

people are still rioting and attacking police as if nothing has been done. The law has been done and after the trial officers will be sentenced in accordance with the law.

as usual all those attacking the police will be straight on the phone to them if they need help. such hypocrisy

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What did he say that was wrong ?

I was correcting you, he definitely has an agenda, I can only imagine you’ve used him as an example because he’s black and you think that makes his and your argument stronger

[Toy Soldier]

Premises of the video:

1) That the civil unrest is only about George Floyd - False

2) That the looting is intended as a political statement - False

3) That there's "no one" who sides with the police on police brutality - False (even right here on TiBB)

4) That the officers involved in George Floyd's death being arrested cancels out the countless other examples of injustice, or makes it unlikely that the same thing or similar will happen again - False


He ignores the ongoing issues. He ignores the countless examples heavy-handed (sometimes plain cruel) police tactics that have been used all across America since this started. He doesn't understand that looting/burning/destuction during civil unrest is a symptom of societal breakdown, and that it isn't part of a plan and it "not making sense" absolutely does not mean that it isn't indicative of a massive systemic problem.

tl;dr he's confused because he doesn't personally understand what civil unrest is or why it happens, and he manages to rant about that for several minutes.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

SO true

people are still rioting and attacking police as if nothing has been done. The law has been done and after the trial officers will be sentenced in accordance with the law.

as usual all those attacking the police will be straight on the phone to them if they need help. such hypocrisy

"Yes yes we know you've endured generations of social inequality and injustice, but look, those cops got arrested for killing that one guy so shhhh all better now eh."

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Premises of the video:

1) That the civil unrest is only about George Floyd - False

2) That the looting is intended as a political statement - False

3) That there's "no one" who sides with the police on police brutality - False (even right here on TiBB)

4) That the officers involved in George Floyd's death being arrested cancels out the countless other examples of injustice, or makes it unlikely that the same thing or similar will happen again - False


He ignores the ongoing issues. He ignores the countless examples heavy-handed (sometimes plain cruel) police tactics that have been used all across America since this started. He doesn't understand that looting/burning/destuction during civil unrest is a symptom of societal breakdown, and that it isn't part of a plan and it "not making sense" absolutely does not mean that it isn't indicative of a massive systemic problem.

tl;dr he's confused because he doesn't personally understand what civil unrest is or why it happens, and he manages to rant about that for several minutes.

This.
He’s either completely clueless about the actual issues or he’s just completely ignoring them for some clout, I’m going with the latter, the same as that Candace Owens

[Denver]

Both him and Candace are a disgrace to the black community and are continuing to hurt them so bad

[Tom4784]

It can be quite profitable to be a minority mouthpiece for the right, there's a few gay people who have made careers from it since the right just love to put these people on pedastals as 'proof' they aren't bigoted.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Liam-

This.
He’s either completely clueless about the actual issues or he’s just completely ignoring them for some clout, I’m going with the latter, the same as that Candace Owens

I'd go with a mix of both. I think people genuinely are confused about what looting has to do with justice and are hyper-focussed on the specifics of the things people are doing, because they don't understand that these things (opportunistic looting, civil disobedience, disregard for the law) go hand-in-hand with societal breakdown - always have, in every example throughout history - and that societal breakdown is always... ALWAYS... the fault of those in authority. It literally cannot be anyone else's fault.

However that is compounded by confirmation bias and people simply not wanting to make the effort to understand it.

You can't blame people for being uneducated on things like history, sociology, social psychology, gang mentality et al... You absolutely can blame them for being willfully ignorant to suit their own bias and agenda.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'd go with a mix of both. I think people genuinely are confused about what looting has to do with justice and are hyper-focussed on the specifics of the things people are doing, because they don't understand that these things (opportunistic looting, civil disobedience, disregard for the law) go hand-in-hand with societal breakdown - always have, in every example throughout history - and that societal breakdown is always... ALWAYS... the fault of those in authority. It literally cannot be anyone else's fault.

However that is compounded by confirmation bias and people simply not wanting to make the effort to understand it.

You can't blame people for being uneducated on things like history, sociology, social psychology, gang mentality et al... You absolutely can blame them for being willfully ignorant to suit their own bias and agenda.

Candace is just scum though she pretty much said George deserved to die and people shouldn't feel sorry for him and protest in his name

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Denver

Both him and Candace are a disgrace to the black community and are continuing to hurt them so bad

This. For any one who wants to know what his agends is - Money. This is very profitable for him and Candace.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It can be quite profitable to be a minority mouthpiece for the right, there's a few gay people who have made careers from it since the right just love to put these people on pedastals as 'proof' they aren't bigoted.

Oops, Dezzy beat me to it. The OP needs better sources.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Yes yes we know you've endured generations of social inequality and injustice, but look, those cops got arrested for killing that one guy so shhhh all better now eh."

No one has endured generations of anything, we all live in one generation.tge USA is one of the best counties in the world. Try living in Africa or russia

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one has endured generations of anything, we all live in one generation.tge USA is one of the best counties in the world. Try living in Africa or russia

Maybe spend less time on TIBB and more time in the history books before commenting on stuff you are clearly not qualified to comment on

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Denver

Maybe spend less time on TIBB and more time in the history books before commenting on stuff you are clearly not qualified to comment on

What are these history books that you mention?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I was correcting you, he definitely has an agenda, I can only imagine you’ve used him as an example because he’s black and you think that makes his and your argument stronger

Yep, absolutely cringeworthy.

[GiRTh]

In a way he's no better than the looters. They're both expoiting the situation to make money.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

In a way he's no better than the looters. They're both expoiting the situation to make money.

Candace Owens got an airing in the other thread, so this is where we are now.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Candace Owens got an airing in the other thread, so this is where we are now.

Its the worst type of tokenism. People will believe that someone like Susan Rice or Dianne Aboott rose to their positions because of they're race but cant see that idiots like Candace and this guys are also the token black.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one has endured generations of anything, we all live in one generation.tge USA is one of the best counties in the world. Try living in Africa or russia

And each generation exists in a bubble unaffected by those that came before. Obviously. bored.

[SherzyK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

What are these history books that you mention?

You’re one to talk Brian. Any time someone asks you for evidence to support your imaginary claims you don’t have anything to show

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Maybe people should listen to this guy who has no agenda just talks sense. I dont now how to add FB videos so used the link

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=543786142953031

Thanks Kazanne

Found that very interesting and he made some great points

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one has endured generations of anything, we all live in one generation.tge USA is one of the best counties in the world. Try living in Africa or russia

I'm alright jack.