[LeatherTrumpet]

that nutjob in the mosque in NZ deffo used his COD skills

for sure

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Maybe they enable depression, allowing the sufferer to forget they're ills for however long they desire..but the state of them after a 30 hour binge must deepen the depression when they stare in the mirror.

That's still not convincing.

Someone severely depressed may not surface out of a cosy bed for days and feel worse for it, deepening their depression.

Would you then infer that mattresses enable depression? No.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's still not convincing.

Someone severely depressed may not surface out of a cosy bed for days and feel worse for it, deepening their depression.

Would you then infer that mattresses enable depression? No.

Yes.

[Marsh.]

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I know someone who has a brand new mattress sitting in her living room unopened, cause she likes the groove she's made in her one through day upon day of being unable to move due to fibromalgi, even on an up day for her bi polar she still can't move ..I think it's her depression and the mattress making her feel less depressed...so the mattress is enabling her depression..

I should have got her chocolates for xmas..cause she ain't wanting the mattress moved for another month...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I know someone who has a brand new mattress sitting in her living room unopened, cause she likes the groove she's made in her one through day upon day of being unable to move due to fibromalgi, even on an up day for her bi polar she still can't move ..I think it's her depression and the mattress making her feel less depressed...so the mattress is enabling her depression..

I should have got her chocolates for xmas..cause she ain't wanting the mattress moved for another month...

People who are depressed seeking out comfort in things doesn't make what they seek comfort in the problem. That's a ridiculous assertion.

In your example, the fibromalgi and bipolar are the causes of her depression. Not her mattress. The chronic pain is causing her depression, the mattress is alleviating it.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

People who are depressed seeking out comfort in things doesn't make what they seek comfort in the problem. That's a ridiculous assertion.

In your example, the fibromalgi and bipolar are the causes of her depression. Not her mattress. The chronic pain is causing her depression, the mattress is alleviating it.

Enabling it...she has a perfectly new one downstairs waiting.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Enabling it...she has a perfectly new one downstairs waiting.

And you haven't given her a hand changing it as she struggles with chronic pain.

[Oliver_W]

My new mattresses are never as nice as the previous one until I've worn a groove into it of the possible "enablers" to point a finger at, that's really reaching...

[Marsh.]

I prefer a firm mattress to one that you "sink" into.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I prefer a firm mattress to one that you "sink" into.

we bought an EMMA mattress and have never looked back

Which recommended you know

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we bought an EMMA mattress and have never looked back

Which recommended you know

I literally never imagined TL's name would be Emma.

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Amy Jade]

There is a great documentary on 'video nasties' on shudder iirc. Most of them were passed without cuts eventually and most should have never been banned to begin with, Mary Whitehouse just found it easier to blame movies.

Always makes me laugh when people say they create killers too, I have been watching horrors since I was about 7. My cousins let me watch Texas Chainsaw when I was about 10 and yeah it obviously scared me but I enjoyed the thrill, always have done and now consider myself a bit of a horror buff. I've watched absolutely tons of horror and I am a care giver professionally so far from a psycho with no empathy like horror fans sometimes get called.

I think the only movies I am against and feel deserve to be regarded as trash are ones where animals were killed for entertainment.

[Oliver_W]

TV shows don't cause violence, cancelling them does! Waynas Brothers was a good show!!

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And you haven't given her a hand changing it as she struggles with chronic pain.

Ive just told you she won't let me cause of her depression being enabled by the groove in her old mattress.

[parmnion]

The Internet causes depression...online gaming chat rooms cause depression..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Ive just told you she won't let me cause of her depression being enabled by the groove in her old mattress.

We believe you love.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

We believe you love.

I'm along there now actually. .shall I get her to phone you

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The Internet causes depression...online gaming chat rooms cause depression..

well as long as a doctor has diagnosed you.

and not self diagnosed, a lot of that going on....

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm along there now actually. .shall I get her to phone you

Yes please.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The Internet causes depression...online gaming chat rooms cause depression..

Well, literally anything can cause depression. Doesn't mean anything in the long run.

[Toy Soldier]

Having done a bit of Googly Research, it seems like the general consensus is that violent imagery in entertainment can inspire "the specific method" of an attack that would probably have been carried out anyway in some form, and can indeed trigger violent outbursts in individuals who are ALREADY predisposed to violence.

They can't and don't make non-violent individuals "turn violent".

I guess you could consider the former a concern but things like alcohol and drugs are MUCH bigger violence triggers... As are basic-arse things like road rage and "job rage". I don't see many people calling for banning frustrating jobs, cars, or (god forbid) precious alcohol when alcohol is involved in NEARLY 1/3 of violent crimes.

Interestingly... Something that does decrease empathy is exposure to REAL violent imagery. So that's things like LiveLeak... Or broadcast news. Ban that filth?

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

They can make people depressed and anxious....draining our NHS

So can coffee We gonna ban that next?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well as long as a doctor has diagnosed you.



and not self diagnosed, a lot of that going on....

The diagnostic process for generalised depression/anxiety is that you go to your GP and say "Hi doctor, I am experiencing feelings of depression/anxiety" and they start a treatment plan. I don't know what you imagine the criteria is if not self-reporting?