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Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 01:30 PM

We all knew that this election was going to be insane because as soon as Trump leaves office, he'd likely be arrested and spend the rest of his life in prison. He's fighting for his freedom in his mind and he's showing he'll burn the world down to get it.

Everything he has said about Hillary being a warmonger and that Obama would start wars to stay in power were true, but only for himself. Trump needs to be removed from power for the good of the world at this point, he will throw us all into war and he'll do so without a second thought.

With this act, Trump has become the biggest human danger to the world at this point in time. God help us all if he's doing **** like this before the 2020 race has even officially begun.

Nicky91 · 03-01-2020, 01:33 PM

i feel for britain now, who wanted a Alliance with USA

Nicky91 · 03-01-2020, 01:38 PM

also i was reading Qasem's Wikipedia profile just now

ok he did do bad things under Saddam

but he also fought with the Iraqi forces later on against ISIL, so the US murdered someone who was against terrorism, extremism

and US should think about how they killed a father of 2 sons, 2 daughters (not just about getting rid of a potential threat)

Oliver_W · 03-01-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

i feel for britain now, who wanted a Alliance with USA

Who else are we gonna ally with - China and Russia? The USA are the best possible allies, Trump will be gone in four years so no need to burn bridges over one crazy President....

Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 01:43 PM

It doesn't really matter if he was a good or bad figure, the US did not have grounds to act and Trump acted without the say so of either Congress or the Senate.

Oliver_W · 03-01-2020, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

It doesn't really matter if he was a good or bad figure, the US did not have grounds to act and Trump acted without the say so of either Congress or the Senate.

I agree, I tried to find a "reason" for the air strike in the articles, but couldn't. I don't think it's gonna lead to WWIII, but it was certainly unwise.

LeatherTrumpet · 03-01-2020, 01:51 PM

In his first comments on the strike, Mr Trump tweeted on Friday morning: "General Qassem Soleimani has killed or badly wounded thousands of Americans over an extended period of time, and was plotting to kill many more...but got caught!

"He was directly and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people, including the recent large number of PROTESTERS killed in Iran itself.

"While Iran will never be able to properly admit it, Soleimani was both hated and feared within the country. They are not nearly as saddened as the leaders will let the outside world believe. He should have been taken out many years ago!"

The Pentagon said the US President ordered the killing of Soleimani "in a decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad".

"General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region. General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more," the Department of Defence said.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...te-quds-force/

Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 01:54 PM

Excuses, he wants a war because he won't likely beat any of the top three democrats otherwise.

Nicky91 · 03-01-2020, 01:59 PM

"in a decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad".

the irony here, in killing general soleimani made them more a target, and in danger from Iran

while Trump could've tried peace talks at a neutral location with Rohani

as for this

''General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region.''

he did do bad bad things very long time ago yes, but recent years he was anti terrorism, anti extremism so idk which evidence they had to back their statement up

LeatherTrumpet · 03-01-2020, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

he did do bad bad things very long time ago yes, but recent years he was anti terrorism, anti extremism so idk which evidence they had to back their statement up

In 2018 he threatened the Americans with a war in which Iran would “destroy all that you possess".

parmnion · 03-01-2020, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Excuses, he wants a war because he won't likely beat any of the top three democrats otherwise.

I'm sure you don't mean that.

Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm sure you don't mean that.

No, he's trailing hard behind all of them in the analytics and if Bernie gets the nom then he's lost the swing vote and the worker's vote that just edged him over the line in 2016.

This whole act of war is nothing more then to keep himself in power so he can avoid the inevitable consequences of his actions for a few years more.

parmnion · 03-01-2020, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

No, he's trailing hard behind all of them in the analytics and if Bernie gets the nom then he's lost the swing vote and the worker's vote that just edged him over the line in 2016.

This whole act of war is nothing more then to keep himself in power so he can avoid the inevitable consequences of his actions for a few years more.

I don't believe that.

arista · 03-01-2020, 02:28 PM

Typical Labour Emily Thornberry
supports Iran

Clip was on LBC.

LeatherTrumpet · 03-01-2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Typical Labour Emily Thornberry
supports Iran

Clip was on LBC.

Yes a caller called her unpatriotic and anti-American

The Slim Reaper · 03-01-2020, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In 2018 he threatened the Americans with a war in which Iran would “destroy all that you possess".

North Korea has been threatening the same for decades, and they actually do have nukes. Trump seems to love Kim though.

LeatherTrumpet · 03-01-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

North Korea has been threatening the same for decades, and they actually do have nukes. Trump seems to love Kim though.

Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't believe that.

And that doesn't change the fact that it's true. Trump doesn't have a Hillary to rely on this time around, he won't have russian leaks either and if he tries the same tactics, everyone has a Ukraine sized counter argument to use against him.

He can't win this election without starting a war, whether you believe it or not doesn't matter to anyone really, you can deny reality but you can't stop it from happening.

The Slim Reaper · 03-01-2020, 02:38 PM

The best ya got?

Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Accusing someone of whataboutism only works if they are trying to justify something by saying 'well, what about this?'. Highlighting someone's hypocrisy by mentioning their different reactions to two similar situations is not whataboutism, it's pointing out hypocrisy.

parmnion · 03-01-2020, 02:54 PM

I'm sure you were calling a 2nd term for trump a little while back...calling has supporters idiots in the process. .I may be wrong so will admit it if I am.

Tom4784 · 03-01-2020, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm sure you were calling a 2nd term for trump a little while back...calling has supporters idiots in the process. .I may be wrong so will admit it if I am.

It's possible, after all stupidity won the day in 2016 and I do fear the corruption that could steal this election but the more I hear about the stats and forecasts, the more hopeful I become.

Unlike some people, I look at facts that are contrary to my opinion and learn from them, not discard them. You should try it sometime.

arista · 03-01-2020, 03:22 PM

His Truck
hit by three super fast missiles
fired from a High up out of sight Drone.
Instant Death for Gen Qasem Soleimani

Iran says they will return with a
Harsh Attack on Americans?