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Old 06-01-2020, 03:44 PM #26
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Not to mention the actual ordeal of reporting it, having to relive it, being put on trial yourself and the low conviction rate of such crimes (though to be fair I think that seems to be more if you're a woman)
Yeah, I've always said the way rape trials are done are ultimately flawed beyond belief since the defense and the system in general often resorts to victim blaming. Victims should never feel like they are on trial but that's often the case.

I remember a few years back, I tried finding out stats about conviction rates or even prosecution rates for male rape and I couldn't find anything. It's such a rare crime to be reported that I don't think they tracked the stats of it. I've always feared that it's far more common then people truly realise.
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Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?
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Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?
The victims were whoever he could.pick up and get back to his flat....he didn't discriminate on sexuality....anyone was fair game.

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if they were out cold they would not get an erection?
I'm not an expert on raping men so I can't really tell you.
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that would explain, as dezzy stated, why most thought "i aint going to the police"
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Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?
Does that even matter?
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that would explain, as dezzy stated, why most thought "i aint going to the police"
Yep. And if very young the embarrassment and shame of their mates finding out they were molested by a gay man. As though it's their own fault.
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Pretty sure it was whoever he could spike, it wouldn't surprise me if most of his victims were straight though, even if they had the misfortune of remembering what happened to them, they wouldn't likely tell anyone for fear of what people could think of them. After all, we're all familiar with the myths that get thrown at women, I think straight men would be less likely to come forward if they thought other people would think that they wanted it but regretted it afterwards, for example.

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..’ He would keep men’s belongings as “trophies” and search for them on Facebook, and once texted a friend about a victim: “He was straight in 2014. 2015 is his breakthrough to the gay world hahaha.”..
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Judging by his lack of remorse and flat emotional affect he's most likely a sociopath.

Don't think such people can change. Best locked up for good.
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That's so scary. What an evil scum bag
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You wouldn't want to be his cell mate...m21 better mind ha self.
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He even raped straight lads
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He even raped straight lads
...what do you mean ‘even’, Arista...a rape is a rape...sexuality doesn’t make it any less of a rape...
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...what do you mean ‘even’, Arista...a rape is a rape...sexuality doesn’t make it any less of a rape...
Exactly, like it's less of a violation if the person is gay
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What the gay ones were asking for it?

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It's being reported that the person who reported him was an 18 year old boy who woke up naked and with the rapist on type of him which led to him smacking the rapist so hard he was left with a bleed on the brain.

The rapist then got the boy arrested with lies but the boy secretly had his iPhone in his pocket which revealed all the abuse then the police found the second phone after searching the flat
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Scary. Glad he got such a strong sentence.
Yes he might get some of his own meds in prison
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This story has really got under my skin.

Idk how to word this, but to the female members on here, how does it make you feel when you read stories about women being raped? which is too much of a common thing nowadays. Obviously you're going to feel all kinds of anger/disgust, etc but until now, I've never felt this strongly about a story involving rape, which is probably because I have never been able to put myself into the victim's shoes (female). I'm probably rambling on but this whole thing is just so scary :/
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This is absolutely horrific, so many lives of innocent people have been destroyed. I can't fathom it.
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Raped is raped no matter if it a man woman its wrong
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We have had rumours of a canal "pusher" for years around the Manchester area. Predominantly homosexual males found over the years but there has been less of a story on that in recent times.

Does make me wonder if he had anything to do with it. He's clearly capable of most things.
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