[Marsh.]

Why does LT keep editing the OP as though nobody will notice?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why does LT keep editing the OP as though nobody will notice?

LABOUR PARTY

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

LABOUR PARTY

lABOUR

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion

Oh don't you worry its probably a different branch

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion

Personally I couldn't give a toss if she's Catholic. .or mogg.

[Twosugars]

Starmer seems solid

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion

Err, he's gotten stick over his own explicitly expressed views on abortion. Not just because he happens to be Catholic.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Err, he's gotten stick over his own explicitly expressed views on abortion. Not just because he happens to be Catholic.

That view on abortion is pretty inherent to Catholicism

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That view on abortion is pretty inherent to Catholicism

Not unless they're fundamentalists? The idea that all Catholics are anti-abortion at all is ridiculous, let alone anti-abortion-for-all (many will take an "I wouldn't ever but each to their own" approach).

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not unless they're fundamentalists? The idea that all Catholics are anti-abortion at all is ridiculous, let alone anti-abortion-for-all (many will take an "I wouldn't ever but each to their own" approach).

Not at all, it's pretty fundamental for a Catholic to subscribe to the teachings of the Catholic Church which is opposed to abortion

[Kizzy]

That would be an ecumenical matter...

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not at all, it's pretty fundamental for a Catholic to subscribe to the teachings of the Catholic Church which is opposed to abortion

You don't know many Catholics then.

[Ammi]

...I think that RLB has stated that she’s pro-choice ...I think that even within the Catholic Church ranks and hierarchy’s etc...there are mixed views on abortion...the Catholic Church, is no longer a ‘one size fits all’...people have their life beliefs, while also having their faith beliefs...otherwise I guess that Roman Catholic people would all be considered extremists...

[MTVN]

I mean Mogg is also pro-choice in the sense he doesn't think it's a matter for the government but the Church could hardly be more clear on its view on abortion. She has indicated in the past she would like stricter laws on it as well: https://www.theredroar.com/2020/01/e...abortion-laws/

[bitontheslide]

I agree with MTVN, it's one of the principle factors that separates the catholic religion from that of the CoE.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I mean Mogg is also pro-choice in the sense he doesn't think it's a matter for the government but the Church could hardly be more clear on its view on abortion. She has indicated in the past she would like stricter laws on it as well: https://www.theredroar.com/2020/01/e...abortion-laws/

You do realise this redroar is a politically centrist site, the spin on this is not to show her in a good light for her views?

So what's your angle here, are you highlighting this issue as a positive or a negative?

Let's get back the the crux of the argument, which was her opinion that termination dates should be the same for an abled as disabled foetus.
I am not catholic and i agree with her, otherwise imo we stray into eugenics.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You do realise this redroar is a politically centrist site, the spin on this is not to show her in a good light for her views?

So what's your angle here, are you highlighting this issue as a positive or a negative?

Let's get back the the crux of the argument, which was her opinion that termination dates should be the same for an abled as disabled foetus.
I am not catholic and i agree with her, otherwise imo we stray into eugenics.

I know the sites position but she did express what is reported there

No angle from me, just wondering if her religion will cause her problems in the same way it has done for Mogg and did for Tim Farron when he was Lib Dem leader

[Josy]

What's going on with these titles/threads?

[Liam-]

His faith was never the issue, his continued lust for oppression against women and gay rights has always been the issue

[Twosugars]

Many Catholics are pragmatic and dont take the church teaching as gospel
On the other hand, many who make a song and dance about their religion tend to be zealots


Oop, just realized I said something without saying much

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I know the sites position but she did express what is reported there

No angle from me, just wondering if her religion will cause her problems in the same way it has done for Mogg and did for Tim Farron when he was Lib Dem leader

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25...ons?policy=826

Have a look at her voting record then weigh up whether her comments were political, ethical or spiritual.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

What's going on with these titles/threads?

Can you please Correct it
it should be The Labour Party Race.


LT was he drunk or something?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

Can you please Correct it
it should be The Labour Party Race.


LT was he drunk or something?

Hear hear. And the thread title for the court case.
Antisocial behaviour

[bitontheslide]

The latest YouGov survey for The Times indicates that the shadow Brexit secretary would beat his closest rival, Rebecca Long Bailey, in the final round by 63 per cent to 37 per cent if the contest concluded today.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The latest YouGov survey for The Times indicates that the shadow Brexit secretary would beat his closest rival, Rebecca Long Bailey, in the final round by 63 per cent to 37 per cent if the contest concluded today.

But it doesn't so that survey result is moot.