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10-01-2020, 03:07 PM | #301 | |||
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10-01-2020, 03:07 PM | #302 | |||
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Life imitates art
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The hate towards Meghan Markle has become toxic and nasty, she isn’t even a bad person. But i’m not really surprised really. I say good for them and i wish them all the best.
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10-01-2020, 03:08 PM | #303 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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TIBB when Iran has a plane crash: We don't believe in coincidence.
TIBB when the only black royal is treated appallingly: Wait, she's black? No way, why do people keep bringing it up?
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10-01-2020, 03:08 PM | #304 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Was it only a month ago they told us all to reduce the number of times we fly
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'put a bit of lippy on and run a brush through your hair, we are alcoholics, not savages' Last edited by Cherie; 10-01-2020 at 03:31 PM. |
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10-01-2020, 03:39 PM | #306 | |||
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You know my methods
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She told Kate and Wills she was pregnant the day of Euginie's wedding
is that a nice person? |
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10-01-2020, 03:49 PM | #307 | |||
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Harry and Meghan’s bombshell announcement is a discourtesy to the Queen – and smacks of millennial self-absorption
If the Sussexes had bothered to show up at Sandringham for Christmas with the rest of the family, witnessing the pressures that the stoical, snowy monarch was under might have inclined them to think again. But Harry, Meghan and eight- month-old Archie were too busy on their six-week “holiday” in Canada, meditating on their own grievances. Funny, isn’t it, how global humanitarians can find it so hard to spot problems nearer to home? To add insult to injury, the pair went on to preach that they would start “to carve out a progressive new role within this institution”. What does that imply about William and Kate, to whom Harry was once so close? Do the the ultra-woke Sussexes think the Cambridges are not “progressive” as they go about their boring old duty of supporting the Queen and keeping their political opinions to themselves? Instead, they have acted with a breathtaking self-centredness, announcing their decision to the public first and clearly hoping to bounce the monarch into accepting their “progressive” new role, which keeps the perks of Royalty while shirking its duties. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-fa...-queen-smacks/ |
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10-01-2020, 04:18 PM | #308 | |||
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*angry people spend years abusing woman telling her she has no place in the royal family, possibly because she’s black, possibly because she’s American, gets told to leave our lovely, innocent, pure white English Prince alone and go back to being a low-rent Hollywood actress*
*husband of said woman decides to put his family ahead of his genetic role to protect them from said, possibly racist abuse, one of the first men in his genetic line to actually be loyal and committed to his family* *said angry people get angrier because said woman is actually doing the very thing they’ve been telling her to do, with unprecedented abuse, for years, because she’s ‘disrespected’ the old white lady*
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10-01-2020, 04:24 PM | #309 | ||
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Maybe Harry should've ****ed her on a different day so she was pregnant a week later than the wedding?
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10-01-2020, 04:37 PM | #311 | ||
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Love how they made bigots fuming On the other hand there is a constructive and supportive editorial in the Guardian |
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10-01-2020, 04:37 PM | #312 | |||
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10-01-2020, 04:45 PM | #313 | ||
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10-01-2020, 04:45 PM | #314 | ||
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The Guardian view on Harry and Meghan: good instinct and courageous action Editorial The Sussexes should not try to have it both ways, but their departure does themselves and the monarchy a favour After what even the Queen has admitted was a bumpy year in 2019, the House of Windsor has begun the new one by driving into a huge pothole. The background to the decision of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to “step back” from their roles as senior members of the royal family is confused. Their wish for a “progressive new role” and to become financially independent tries to have it both ways – with continuing financial support from the family and the retention of their titles – and makes no sense. People will wish them well. But the damage to the institution cannot be denied. On the personal level, only the hardest of hearts will not hope the Sussexes can make it work. All will wish that they will be happier in these new arrangements than they have been recently. In family crises such as these it is often hard, and sometimes impossible, to know where the balance of responsibilities lies, though this will not stop some frenzied attempts to play the blame game. Doubtless there is plenty of blame to go round. Yet no news organisation should dismiss one of the most clearly stated reasons for this dramatic decision – the fears of Prince Harry and Meghan that the British press has them under siege to a degree that threatens to do to them what it did to Diana, Princess of Wales. The collective turn against the Sussexes by much of the media since they made their announcement illustrates precisely where part of the problem lies. It does not help that Britain has just elected a government led by a journalist who made stories up and whose manifesto gives the press a free pass to continue the abuses and techniques that led to the Leveson inquiry. The bottom line for the British monarchy as a public institution is that this is a major blow. The blow is stronger for coming so soon after Prince Andrew’s disgrace in the Jeffrey Epstein affair drove him to the sidelines too. It leaves the institution more open to emotional criticism than at any time since the Prince of Wales’s divorce and the death of Diana, more than 20 years ago. The monarchy itself may not be at risk this week, as it was in 1936 and some argued it was in 1997. But the fragility of the royal house is now more palpable than ever, as the ageing of the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh signals the imminence of a period of change at the top. Tolstoy observed that all unhappy families are unhappy in different ways. A breach of some kind could have happened in any family, royal or not. But the breach between the Sussexes and the House of Windsor resonates with implications that transcend those who are directly involved. It is an uncomfortable sign that the Windsors have not, as has been claimed, recovered their post-Diana poise. In other circumstances, the monarchy would risk being characterised as not fit for purpose. Part of this centres on the uniquely hapless role of “the spare”. The only role of the younger sibling of the heir to the throne is to remain alive in case the call comes – as it did to Prince Albert, later George VI, in 1936. Prince Harry, like Prince Andrew and Princess Margaret before him, has struggled with this fate. If he was not to become another ageing royal sybarite, the issue needed to be forced. This week Harry and Meghan have done just that. His solution is not fully worked out yet. But the instinct was right and the action was courageous. All this has arisen not because of personalities but because the Windsors have not thought properly about downsizing. It is absurd that, beyond the sovereign and the heir, young royals are not told to find paid jobs, or trained to do so. In other monarchies, most of which remain popular, such career paths are entirely normal. Only in Britain is such infantile mystique attached to the crown. By their awkward rebellion against our antiquated form of monarchy, the Sussexes have done themselves – and maybe the monarchy itself – a favour. https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rageous-action |
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10-01-2020, 04:49 PM | #315 | |||
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The failing Guardian hate the Royal Family and know their reader does too so a vindictive editiorial attacking Her Majesty is par for the course
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10-01-2020, 04:50 PM | #316 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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Couple tell brother and SIL they're expecting, on the day of their cousins wedding doesn't really sound that bad to me
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10-01-2020, 04:50 PM | #317 | ||
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10-01-2020, 04:52 PM | #318 | |||
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its a very big deal and it was |
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10-01-2020, 04:54 PM | #319 | ||
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10-01-2020, 04:55 PM | #320 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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10-01-2020, 04:55 PM | #321 | ||
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10-01-2020, 04:57 PM | #322 | ||
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10-01-2020, 04:58 PM | #323 | ||
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10-01-2020, 04:59 PM | #324 | ||
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10-01-2020, 05:02 PM | #325 | ||
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