[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I think more than anything it’s about Meghan having things her way against Royal traditions.... the birth of her baby and not traditionally showing her son to the eagerly awaiting public as she left hospital. The christening all kept hush hush and no announcement of godparents...shared with the public by Royal tradition. If you join the Royal family then you do become public property...that’s part of it because we the public pay for them to enjoy all the luxuries that come with being Royal. Megan had a choice...Harry was born into it. They have many many things that we the Public don’t but in return they have to take the pitfalls and do things they perhaps don’t want to.
William had a hard time in my opinion adapting to the publicity in his teenage years but he has accepted his role and has come through with flying colours. Kate has been the epitome of the perfect wife and role model as a Royal.

Going against royal protocol was one of the reasons why Diana was loved. If Will and Kate had decided to do the same, Kate would have been praised for her bravery in going against the grain for the sake of her family's privacy.

It's also kind of sexist to make out that it's all Meghan's influence that's to blame, that she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when Harry has despised the media circus for years and is more than justified in hating it given his childhood. I think it's more likely that he became a dad and probably, in that moment, empathised fully with how Diana felt in her royal role and wanted no more part in it. The racist harassment that Meghan gets daily was probably a factor, after all would you sit back and grin and bear it if your spouse was being harassed because of the colour of their skin?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Pathetic....Andrew has been basically sacked from the Royal family because of the backlash....and Racism has nothing to do with the backlash against Meghan.

Truth hurts Meghan is getting way more hate than Andrew FACT. People’s attitude towards Meghan is gross and toxic. The reaction to Andrew is nothing compared to what people are doing to Meghan, who literally hasn’t done nothing wrong

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Pathetic....Andrew has been basically sacked from the Royal family because of the backlash....and Racism has nothing to do with the backlash against Meghan.

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Choosing not to see the racism behind the hatred for Meghan in the press doesn't mean it doesn't exist, It just means you don't want to acknowledge it.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Pretty much, I'm surprised the racists aren't making out that she's responsible for Andrew's actions while they're at it. They are that ridiculous with their desperate attempts to justify their racist hatred and make it out to be something else.

Yeah i’m surprised too, people are doing too much.

[Cherie]

Of course they has been some racism levied at her from ignorant quarters, but the majority of the UK took her to their heart, those that are interested in the Royals that is, unfortunately Harry and Meghan punished the wrong people for the actions of some idiots, like Rusti said not sharing details of the baby etc, Diana might have gone against Royal protocols but not in that fashion, she didn't dismiss the Royalists and people who turn out in the rain if they are doing a walkabout, and that is where Harry and Meghan have fallen short, I think most people would have had a lot more respect for both of them if they took their time over this move, if they had gone back to Canada for an extended break no one would have batted an eyelid, instead they chose to make it a media circus and that is not sitting well especially given the Queens age and Philips ill health

[LukeB]

Majority didn’t took to her at all, people had an issue with her from the minute it was announced she dating Harry. Everyone is entitled to keep things private who bloody cares she didn’t announce details, hardly a bloody crime. The hate for that was OTT as well. I don’t blame Harry and Meghan stepping away and moving to canada. Good on them lovely people

[Glenn.]

i blame the boomers

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Majority didn’t took to her at all, people had an issue with her from the minute it was announced she dating Harry. Everyone is entitled to keep things private who bloody cares she didn’t announce details, hardly a bloody crime. The hate for that was OTT as well. I don’t blame Harry and Meghan stepping away and moving to canada. Good on them lovely people

I disagree, it was very much a fairytale in the beginning. I don't think anyone particularly cares that they are moving to Canada, good luck to them, its the way its been done, they want no publicity yet here we are

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I disagree, it was very much a fairytale in the beginning. I don't think anyone particularly cares that they are moving to Canada, good luck to them, its the way its been done, they want no publicity yet here we are

people do care because it's all they are talking about now, they would be criticised for not announcing it like they were not giving us details about their baby. It was both of their choices but Meghan is getting majority of the hate and people calling her names like 'gold digger' 'manipulative'. All this hate is extremely toxic. She is human, all this hate could mentally hurt her so people need to chill.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LukeB

people do care because it's all they are talking about now, they would be criticised for not announcing it like they were not giving us details about their baby. It was both of their choices but Meghan is getting majority of the hate and people calling her names like 'gold digger' 'manipulative'. All this hate is extremely toxic. She is human, all this hate could mentally hurt her so people need to chill.

They announced it too early, there are no details confirmed, just their wish list, it’s not the public’s fault that happened, of course it’s going to create discussion

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They announced it too early, there are no details confirmed, just their wish list, it’s not the public’s fault that happened, of course it’s going to create discussion

too early, at the right time or too late, it would still be the same reaction. People would have knew what was going on anyway. Nothing stays hidden espically when you're in the royal family.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Going against royal protocol was one of the reasons why Diana was loved. If Will and Kate had decided to do the same, Kate would have been praised for her bravery in going against the grain for the sake of her family's privacy.

It's also kind of sexist to make out that it's all Meghan's influence that's to blame, that she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when Harry has despised the media circus for years and is more than justified in hating it given his childhood. I think it's more likely that he became a dad and probably, in that moment, empathised fully with how Diana felt in her royal role and wanted no more part in it. The racist harassment that Meghan gets daily was probably a factor, after all would you sit back and grin and bear it if your spouse was being harassed because of the colour of their skin?

Diana was adored by the public and when she was part of the Royal family she embraced everything...she made a few subtle changes like taking William to Australia when he was so young. Only when she was sidelined by them after her divorce did she make bigger and bolder decisions. I’m sorry but I don’t agree with the ‘racism’ ****e...it’s like you calling me sexist just because I happen to disagree with how she has gone about things...but then show admiration for Kate...But of course that will make me racist not everything has to carry a label...it’s about behaviour accepting a role of not only being someone’s wife...but a Royal wife. There is a script that goes with it in return for the privileges...

[bitontheslide]

So is William also a racist? He hasn't changed anything and yet he says his brother has gone on a path he can no longer agree with

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Truth hurts Meghan is getting way more hate than Andrew FACT. People’s attitude towards Meghan is gross and toxic. The reaction to Andrew is nothing compared to what people are doing to Meghan, who literally hasn’t done nothing wrong

Andrew has had a massive backlash...however he isn’t seen as a senior Royal. He and his family have very little attention from the public... However William and Harry have always been adored and imo have re established the Royal family. Meghan has done nothing bad but she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol. People see a change in Harry and if it wasn’t for her this wouldn’t be happening. Of course Harry will protect her..he obviously loves her but he has been disrespectful to the Queen...something he has always shown (apart from his wild days) so why would he treat her that way now?..and the obvious conclusion is that he is letting his wife rule his head...what Meghan wants Meghan gets and in the process he is casting all others close to him aside..

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

So is William also a racist? He hasn't changed anything and yet he says his brother has gone on a path he can no longer agree with

People aren’t racist for saying they disagree with their chosen path, people are racist for being racist

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Andrew has had a massive backlash...however he isn’t seen as a senior Royal. He and his family have very little attention from the public... However William and Harry have always been adored and imo have re established the Royal family. Meghan has done nothing bad but she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol. People see a change in Harry and if it wasn’t for her this wouldn’t be happening. Of course Harry will protect her..he obviously loves her but he has been disrespectful to the Queen...something he has always shown (apart from his wild days) so why would he treat her that way now?..and the obvious conclusion is that he is letting his wife rule his head...what Meghan wants Meghan gets and in the process he is casting all others close to him aside..

The reaction was tame compared to what Meghan is getting, it doesn't matter he actually did something vile and Meghan hasn't so the Meghan hate isn't justified. Meghan hasn't showed no signs of being a diva. Harry is still the same Harry but of course blame the woman. 'Harry disrespected the queen" but Meghan gets the blame for something Harry apparently did. Always the woman's fault isn't it. Peoples reactions are justifying their move to canada and proves people have been nasty and toxic towards her.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Andrew has had a massive backlash...however he isn’t seen as a senior Royal. He and his family have very little attention from the public... However William and Harry have always been adored and imo have re established the Royal family. Meghan has done nothing bad but she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol. People see a change in Harry and if it wasn’t for her this wouldn’t be happening. Of course Harry will protect her..he obviously loves her but he has been disrespectful to the Queen...something he has always shown (apart from his wild days) so why would he treat her that way now?..and the obvious conclusion is that he is letting his wife rule his head...what Meghan wants Meghan gets and in the process he is casting all others close to him aside..

Where is your proof that ‘...she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol.’?
Where has this come from? Do you know her personally or in fact the family? Have you seen this for yourself or has it come from tabloids?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Where is your proof that ‘...she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol.’?
Where has this come from? Do you know her personally or in fact the family? Have you seen this for yourself or has it come from tabloids?

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

He has a new family now. A wife and child that he has to prioritise now. Like how do you know moving away wasn't his idea??

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

Nonsense.
Harry grew up critical of the status quo. You think he forgot how his mother was treated by that institution?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

He's his own man.....who says he's not just pissed off of living as a spare to the heir in William's shadow and wants to start finally living his own life. Maybe he wanted an American wife so he could base himself partly over there? No-one knows the true Royal family dynamic, its not like anything anyone of us could understand

[Twosugars]

The whole thing needs reforming.

Apparently Charles intends to reform it so all Harry did was to move first in that direction

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

He's his own man.....who says he's not just pissed off of living as a spare to the heir in William's shadow and wants to start finally living his own life. Maybe he wanted an American wife so he could base himself partly over there? No-one knows the true Royal family dynamic, its not like anything anyone of us could understand

Exactly.
People forget how unhappy Margaret was. Less said about the choices of Andrew, another spare, the better.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Diana was adored by the public and when she was part of the Royal family she embraced everything...she made a few subtle changes like taking William to Australia when he was so young. Only when she was sidelined by them after her divorce did she make bigger and bolder decisions. I’m sorry but I don’t agree with the ‘racism’ ****e...it’s like you calling me sexist just because I happen to disagree with how she has gone about things...but then show admiration for Kate...But of course that will make me racist not everything has to carry a label...it’s about behaviour accepting a role of not only being someone’s wife...but a Royal wife. There is a script that goes with it in return for the privileges...

Oh drop the victim act and stop twisting my words.

If you don't think the hatred of Meghan isn't racially motivated then you haven't been paying attention or you simply don't want to see it. Closing your eyes to racism doesn't make it go away.

I said it's sexist to blame her and act like she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when he's got just as much reason to despise the media and want out as she does. She's being made out to be some sort of master manipulator when it's just as likely that he could be the driving force behind this but it's easier to blame the woman, I suppose.

Why the **** are you going on about 'labels' like Racism is akin to ****ing sexuality? If people act in racist ways, they'll get accused of being racist. This whole hate campaign against Meghan has always been nothing short of racism.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

He's his own man.....who says he's not just pissed off of living as a spare to the heir in William's shadow and wants to start finally living his own life. Maybe he wanted an American wife so he could base himself partly over there? No-one knows the true Royal family dynamic, its not like anything anyone of us could understand

Jesus Annie, he didn’t need an American wife to base himself in America, so if he wanted to base himself in Germany he would of got a German wife.

All this change has come about due to Megan nothing more.