[arista]

Over 5 years
38 dead.

As they stayed in their
Cars on the Road
assuming that a X would appear
and drivers would notice it.

There was a BBC Panorama on this,

[Livia]

The hard shoulder of a motorway is a really dangerous place at the best of times. Taking that away and making it a lane is insanity. And they call it "smart"!

[Kizzy]

Who was the bright spark behind this then? ... I can't believe anyone thought this would work :/
The poor recovery guys having to effectively shield breakdowns what!?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

The hard shoulder of a motorway is a really dangerous place at the best of times. Taking that away and making it a lane is insanity. And they call it "smart"!

But at least if you break down
the hard shoulder you car can go on - safe
if you get out
just make sure no fast cars in the lane
common sense.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Who was the bright spark behind this then? ... I can't believe anyone thought this would work :/
The poor recovery guys having to effectively shield breakdowns what!?

Conservative -LibDem 2010

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_motorway


And Kizzy it's so unsafe
AA and RAC no longer go on it.
you are left with 999 emergency

[AnnieK]

They spent years and millions making the M60 in Manchester a "smart motorway" to keep traffic moving.....sitting in standing traffic every morning, I can conclude, it didn't work.

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

They spent years and millions making the M60 in Manchester a "smart motorway" to keep traffic moving.....sitting in standing traffic every morning, I can conclude, it didn't work.

Yes as the years go on
more Wife's get car's
as well as the men

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes as the years go on
more Wife's get car's
as well as the men

Honestly, what planet do you live on?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Honestly, what planet do you live on?

England
We used to Control America back in 1607

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes as the years go on
more Wife's get car's
as well as the men

Them bloody wife's clogging up our motorways
They should stick to the kitchen sink where they belong, raising the little'uns

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Honestly, what planet do you live on?

Uranus

[Alf]

I have a better solution, get rid of motor vehicles altogether.

Bring back the horse and cart. Keep the trains too.

[bitontheslide]

people do not pay proper care and attention on motorways, they dont often drive within their vehicle and personal capabilities. if they did, the smart motorways would be fine

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people do not pay proper care and attention on motorways, they dont often drive within their vehicle and personal capabilities. if they did, the smart motorways would be fine

Of Course
But lack of public info
or TV ads

is why.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

I have a better solution, get rid of motor vehicles altogether.

Bring back the horse and cart. Keep the trains too.

No Alf
Amazon Prime
is the next day
we pay each year for that
and free Star Trek new series.


Wake UP Alf

[arista]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Them bloody wife's clogging up our motorways
They should stick to the kitchen sink where they belong, raising the little'uns

Some do.
To be most fair

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Conservative -LibDem 2010

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_motorway


And Kizzy it's so unsafe
AA and RAC no longer go on it.
you are left with 999 emergency

Not surprised.. crap ideas about roads, bridges, trains, runways. And they still got in because of another crap tory idea :/

[Livia]

When I take over the country, no one under 25 is getting a licence. That'll take a decent number of cars off the roads, and all of them belonging to the "most dangerous" age group.

[Kizzy]

'It is clear to see from data released by Gov.uk last year, that drivers aged 20–29 pose the most risk on our roads. With dramatically higher figures than any other age group, drivers in their twenties were last year involved in 20,841 road incidents of all severities – considerably higher than any other age group and drastically greater than road incidents of all severities involving drivers aged 70–79 (3,254) and road incidents involving drivers aged 80 and over (1,939.)'

https://www.click4reg.co.uk/blog/dri...e-of-25-cause/

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Livia

When I take over the country, no one under 25 is getting a licence. That'll take a decent number of cars off the roads, and all of them belonging to the "most dangerous" age group.

This is not a smart idea.

[Kizzy]

Yep punish the majority due to the minority that always a good plan.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

When I take over the country, no one under 25 is getting a licence. That'll take a decent number of cars off the roads, and all of them belonging to the "most dangerous" age group.

To be fair though, while some of that is down to recklessness of young drivers... A lot of it is down to the inexperience of NEW drivers. So making it that you can only start at 25 would probably just bump up the figures for accidents involving 25-30 year olds... Since all the 25 year olds are now the new inexperienced drivers.

Really there's no way to get around there being inexperienced drivers on the road, unfortunately. Everyone is new at some point.

Soef of reminds me of an old customer I had who used to frequently insist - when he had been inconvenienced by staff inexperience of some sort - that "untrained staff shouldn't be working on the desk!!". I once suggested as an OBVIOUSLY sarcastic joke that they should be trained in warehouses with actors for 6 months and he unironically thought it was a great idea

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Honestly, what planet do you live on?

Originally Posted by arista

England

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Big Evil

This is not a smart idea.

How do you propose to reduce the number of cars on the road then? Because a house with two adults and two teenagers is pretty soon going to be come a four car house. Young people don't have the judgement skills of older people. They think they do... I thought I was very sophisticated at 18. It's only looking back you realise how under cooked you really are.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair though, while some of that is down to recklessness of young drivers... A lot of it is down to the inexperience of NEW drivers. So making it that you can only start at 25 would probably just bump up the figures for accidents involving 25-30 year olds... Since all the 25 year olds are now the new inexperienced drivers.

Really there's no way to get around there being inexperienced drivers on the road, unfortunately. Everyone is new at some point.

Soef of reminds me of an old customer I had who used to frequently insist - when he had been inconvenienced by staff inexperience of some sort - that "untrained staff shouldn't be working on the desk!!". I once suggested as an OBVIOUSLY sarcastic joke that they should be trained in warehouses with actors for 6 months and he unironically thought it was a great idea

Inexperienced and young... they're not the same thing.

We're hurtling towards an environmental disaster... and yet we're going to stand up for the rights of more people to drive cars. What would Greta say?