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Josy · 07-02-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigs

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

You make some very valid well thought out points.

AnnieK · 07-02-2020, 05:13 PM

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

Josy · 07-02-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

Yes I think that would have been a lot better too, I also saw earlier that holly has now said she has known about it for a long time so I'm hoping his wife did too.

Liam- · 07-02-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigs

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

Spot on

Jessica. · 07-02-2020, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

Yeah, I thought his wife was going to be with him during his chat about it on This Morning and not Holly tbh, I was a bit surprised to see her there reading his statement and stuff, i know they are co-hosts but huh?

Cal. · 07-02-2020, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

Yeah, I thought his wife was going to be with him during his chat about it on This Morning and not Holly tbh, I was a bit surprised to see her there reading his statement and stuff, i know they are co-hosts but huh?

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

Marsh. · 07-02-2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal.

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

Assume a lot don't you?

Babayaro. · 07-02-2020, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Assume a lot don't you?

Always assuming, that one.

Jessica. · 07-02-2020, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal.

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

Yeah, obviously she was supporting him but I just didn't expect her.

Liam- · 07-02-2020, 05:35 PM

If on DOI on Sunday he’s not skated out onto the rink atop all the male professional skaters, in his Joseph robe while Diana Ross ‘I’m coming out’ plays, all of this was for nothing

Marsh. · 07-02-2020, 05:54 PM

No wonder H was saved last week.

Liam- · 07-02-2020, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

No wonder H was saved last week.

Matt to have a ‘mysterious illness’ forcing Phil to take his place?

Marsh. · 07-02-2020, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

Matt to have a ‘mysterious illness’ forcing Phil to take his place?

Kate! · 07-02-2020, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

No wonder H was saved last week.

Cal. · 07-02-2020, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

Yeah, obviously she was supporting him but I just didn't expect her.

Sorry I’m half asleep I didn’t mean my reply to sound so pointless luv

Marsh. · 07-02-2020, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal.

Sorry I’m half asleep I didn’t mean my reply to sound so pointless luv

Does that apply to all your posts?

GoldHeart · 07-02-2020, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

No wonder H was saved last week.

That joke would only make sense if Philip was a judge himself , I don't watch DOI though .

Ammi · 07-02-2020, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

...maybe talking about it will be something she’ll think about in the future, Annie...

Ammi · 07-02-2020, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jigs

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

..Jigs..

..you’ve put it so perfectly...it must be so incredibly difficult for both Philip and his wife...he seems to be surrounded by family love and support...but that won’t necessarily have made it and will make it easier for him...

Marsh. · 07-02-2020, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That joke would only make sense if Philip was a judge himself , I don't watch DOI though .

Listen YOU!

LeatherTrumpet · 07-02-2020, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..Jigs..

..you’ve put it so perfectly...it must be so incredibly difficult for both Philip and his wife...he seems to be surrounded by family love and support...but that won’t necessarily have made it and will make it easier for him...

that is certainly how the PR material he launched today would want you to believe. It seems it has been successful