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10-02-2020, 01:14 PM | #1 | |||
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Tomorrow they go
Early at 6AM [More than 170 MPs have urged the PM to halt plans to deport 50 people to Jamaica on Tuesday until a review into the Windrush scandal is published. Their call comes after a leaked draft of the report said the government should consider ending the deportation of foreign-born offenders who came to the UK as children. Tuesday's flight is expected to include a man who moved to the UK aged five.] [The PM has said it is right that foreign-born offenders are deported. Boris Johnson told MPs last week: "I think the whole House will understand that the people of this country will think it right to send back foreign national offenders."] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51443189 A Conservative Minister said on All Out Politics they are going tomorrow. Last edited by arista; 10-02-2020 at 04:23 PM. |
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11-02-2020, 06:08 AM | #2 | |||
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The Flight has Gone.
But the Home Secretary said (on SkyNewsHD breakfast) only around 20 on the flight. So the men that did not go must be the one's the Labour MP's are fighting over. Last edited by arista; 11-02-2020 at 06:56 AM. |
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11-02-2020, 06:53 AM | #3 | |||
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like the boys
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Priti Patel in "Priti Patel is an inhuman monster" shocker!
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11-02-2020, 07:01 AM | #4 | |||
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It appears the Worse of the 50 were deported around 20. Guilty of Murder and other bad offences Last edited by arista; 11-02-2020 at 07:02 AM. |
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11-02-2020, 07:09 AM | #5 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...regardless of their offence, they have been here since childhood...?..’criminal offence’ is not a place of birth in any way, their environmental characteristics were part of their moulding...the thought processes are ridiculous...
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11-02-2020, 07:12 AM | #6 | |||
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No you can not ignore Rape and Murder |
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11-02-2020, 07:16 AM | #7 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...no one is ignoring rape and murder...that rape and murder was committed by people who have lived in this country since being small children...there is no reasoning to deporting those offenders...
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11-02-2020, 07:18 AM | #8 | |||
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self-oscillating
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i can't get upset over criminals being deported, there are far worse things going on in the world
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11-02-2020, 07:22 AM | #9 | |||
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11-02-2020, 08:54 AM | #10 | |||
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The Home Office has previously said the flight was "specifically for removing foreign criminals" and it included "people convicted of manslaughter, rape, violent crime and dealing Class A drugs". Number 10 has said all the people on the flight have sentences of 12 months or more.
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11-02-2020, 08:57 AM | #11 | |||
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Sod orf
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11-02-2020, 09:01 AM | #12 | |||
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Zumi Zimi Zami
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oh i see nvm
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Taking part in Strictly Jake's Tibb does Strictly Game. Last edited by Nicky91; 11-02-2020 at 09:03 AM. Reason: looked it up on google, other past news sources regarding this |
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11-02-2020, 09:59 AM | #13 | |||
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Sod orf
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11-02-2020, 10:15 AM | #14 | |||
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Update the total Criminals
that left on today's flight was 17 |
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11-02-2020, 10:17 AM | #15 | |||
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11-02-2020, 10:37 AM | #16 | |||
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I may be wrong but I think this law came in under labour
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11-02-2020, 11:41 AM | #17 | |||
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I don't understand how they can though, do these people have dual citizenship?
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11-02-2020, 06:38 PM | #18 | |||
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Well Done Labour MP
Dawn Butler agreed that the Rapists must be Deported, On Ch4HDnews a few mins ago. |
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12-02-2020, 02:52 AM | #19 | |||
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Campaigners have accused the Home Office of inhumane treatment of Jamaicans granted a last-minute reprieve from deportation, as details of a controversial charter flight emerged.
At least 25 people set to be flown to Kingston on Tuesday morning had their removal halted by judges hours earlier because they had been denied access to legal help. The Independent understands that around 20 of these men were told they would not be on the flight, only to be driven from their detention centres near Heathrow to Yorkshire in the middle of the night – with no details about where they were going. In one case, a disabled man said he was left suffering “excruciating pain” after being forced to sit on a coach for 11 hours while he was driven to Doncaster airport despite having been told his removal was not going ahead. Campaigners said that the treatment, in the wake of the Windrush scandal, was “callous and cruel”. The disabled man, 56, who didn’t want to be named, said he was taken from his disability cell in Harmondsworth removal centre at around 9pm on Monday and had to wait for around three hours before the vehicle left. “I had been feeling a lot of pain in my back and legs even before, and then it intensified. [The officers] gave me two pillows because that’s all they could find,” he said “I was in so much pain. I kept complaining and telling them this was inhumane. I was really distraught, seriously distressed.” Full article https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9330531.html |
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12-02-2020, 07:04 AM | #20 | |||
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LBC reported these were criminals, I think we have enough of our own ,if this is the case,I need to follow up on this story to get the full picture.it was said some mobile signals were down but they did have access to a landline, so some grey areas here
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12-02-2020, 07:38 AM | #21 | |||
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they were taken off the flight on a pure technicality, the availability of the O2 network in the areas they were detained. Completely clutching at straws. For them to claim cruelty now is laughable given all their criminal histories
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12-02-2020, 08:58 AM | #22 | |||
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I thought prison was penance? If you were a criminal once you have served your sentence you are no longer a criminal.
Unless these people are going before prison there are no grounds to send them is there? There may be some that are or have been criminals, I have read of those who are not, they just don't have the money to fight the home office.
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12-02-2020, 09:35 AM | #23 | |||
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Criminals or not the whole thing is messed up, and we all saw how the windrush people were treated who had been living in the UK for most of their life.
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12-02-2020, 09:39 AM | #24 | |||
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I Cant Breathe
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if we punish criminals for trying to change then what is the point in the whole system? it is meant to stop re offending but those who dont re-offend are punished
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12-02-2020, 09:48 AM | #25 | |||
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I think the criminal element is being played up to get the majority of the public on board with this. Otherwise there literally would be an outcry if you were deporting people for just being brought here as children.
How were these kids not naturalised, I don't understand how they are not British citizens?
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