[X.Samanda.X]

Is bb the orignal reality tv show or is it castway which by the way got 200,000 viewers couple weeks ago lol.

[xXEtchieXx]

BB was first, original and still the best IMO.

[Matt08]

Big Brother is the only one that's actually survived.........I think!

[spacebandit]

Seven Up - started in 1964 and is considered the UK's first "reality tv"

There are many many other examplesof rtv previous to BB.

BB type progs are just the latest style of "rtv" - voyeuristic shows set in specially constructed environments.

But the orignal "reality tv show" ? , by a long long way its NOT BB.

You can go back to mid 1940's America for a whole host of unscripted and broadcast live tv shows featuring members of the public

[Gap]

I think the one that started a reality boom was one about Taxis.
Cocaine I've found your image

[xXEtchieXx]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Seven Up - started in 1964 and is considered the UK's first "reality tv"

There are many many other examplesof rtv previous to BB.

BB type progs are just the latest style of "rtv" - voyeuristic shows set in specially constructed environments.

But the orignal "reality tv show" ? , by a long long way its NOT BB.

You can go back to mid 1940's America for a whole host of unscripted and broadcast live tv shows featuring members of the public

Can you name a few for us?

[X.Samanda.X]

gap u halarious lol

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by xXEtchieXx

Can you name a few for us?

Beat the Clock
Truth Or Consequences
Nightwatch

Candid Camera was even originally broadcast live, featuring unscripted and unaware members of the public - arguably the ultimate reality tv.

Talent and Amateur shows, things like we have now with Britains Got Talent , all on TV live,

In America in the 70's there was "An American Family", a twelve week show broadcast twice a week featuring a weekly "highlights" show and a second show - part highlight, part live following a family through a divorce.

In UK we had "The Family", working class family fly in the wall stuff

Australia had "Sylvania Waters" - [may not be the exact title memory escapes me]

Even the shows that have special living places, like the BB house, back in 1995 there was a show called "Real World" a group of peope forced to live together and have to complete challenges to earn rewards like a bigger food delivery - sound familiar ??, it had a spin-off the next year called Road Rules

The first series of BB aired in Holland in 1999, several years later - the first reality tv show ? not by a long way, even the format is taken from earlier shows

[bigbrotherlatest]

IF BB FINISHES I DONTNO WOT TO DO WITH MY SUMMER......I HERD IT FINISHES ON THE 11TH SERIES. BUT IT CNT GO ON FOREVER I SPOSE BUTT I LOE ITT

[beanny]

Shipwrecked started in 1997 then came back last year and this year

[Chri$]

Originally posted by beannyy2k7
Shipwrecked started in 1997 then came back last year and this year

OMG realy?

[~SAMZ~]

which country started BB? it is on in alot of countries now just ondered if we were the 1st?

[Sam]

Netherlands

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by spacebandit
Australia had "Sylvania Waters" - [may not be the exact title memory escapes me]

LOL, please! It's right there on the Wikipedia page you got the content for both of your posts from.

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

LOL, please! It's right there on the Wikipedia page you got the content for both of your posts from.

You mean the page that takes some information I contributed to Reality Zone a few years ago, and a page I have edited myself to make additions.

which in itself followed on from my one claim to published fame, a short article in a magazine called Omni back in the mid 80's, where I questioned just how far real tv could go, and wondered how long before we see a death on screen, most probably an execution specifically carried out for the sake of an "entertainment" show.

For the record I predicted 2020, and now think I was wide of the mark. Instead the oil wars will take care of our species so we won't have to worry about debasing ourselves with such a spectacle

[Stu]

Originally posted by bigbrotherlatest
IF BB FINISHES I DONTNO WOT TO DO WITH MY SUMMER......I HERD IT FINISHES ON THE 11TH SERIES. BUT IT CNT GO ON FOREVER I SPOSE BUTT I LOE ITT

Yeah some members think this will herald at least 11 series' and they are blissfully unaware of such a thing as a contract termination.

[CharlotteSometimes]

Originally posted by spacebandit

You mean the page that takes some information I contributed to Reality Zone a few years ago, and a page I have edited myself to make additions.

Strange. Every time I refresh the page, your post grows ... No, I mean exactly what I said in my previous post. I've no problem with your source, I just didn't see the point of failing to credit the fact that the posts essentially paraphrase Wikipedia. As to whether your claim of participation in the content of that page is accurate or not, I've really no idea. You could be any of the listed editors for the page, after all (although seemingly not under the same nom de plume that you use here).

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by CharlotteSometimes

Strange. Every time I refresh the page, your post grows ... No, I mean exactly what I said in my previous post. I've no problem with your source, I just didn't see the point of failing to credit the fact that the posts essentially paraphrase Wikipedia. As to whether your claim of participation in the content of that page is accurate or not, I've really no idea. You could be any of the listed editors for the page, after all (although seemingly not under the same nom de plume that you use here).

Why should I credit a paraphrase of something that was probably originally paraphrased from material of my own, [I tend to be more long winded - as you are about to discover] and would, I would hazard a guess be similar to how I would phrase it now in a shortened version for somewhere like this, and which I myself have edited on the sites that it appears on.

Usually to remove the long windedness and make it more concise - peoples attention spans are not what they used to be. Wiki isn't the only one it and very very similar has appeared on other sites, and I can hardly claim credit for them all, as I'm not that much of an anorak and don't feel the need to demand credit for something so slight.

I hadn't been to the Wiki page in a while and didn't recall the page itself when I replied, you see I don't use Wiki that much.

No, I dont edit under "spacebandit", nor in the real world do I use "spacebandit" in any form except to refer to the Hawkwind album I nicked it off, I use the name on my birth certificate.

I use one of three usernames on various forums, and have done so since 1993, but only use Spacebandit here now, I previously used Spacebandit on a political forum called RealWatch, a forum that compared [and gernerally slated] news coverage globally, which shut up shop in January 1996 when the University it was based in killed off their servers to make the big Windows upgrade. I havent checked up on that to see if any remnant exists, it was way before Google cache existed, so if you feel the need to check up on that you may have a problem. Though some American University sites are a good place to seek out materials archived pre 1997.

Enjoy

[CharlotteSometimes]

When you use other people's work, it's generally manners to credit them, as otherwise it may be [mis]construed that the content is [wholly] your own. The 'longwinded' explanation wasn't really necessary, thanks all the same. There's hardly much point resorting to Google's cached pages when you can simply click on Wikipedia's history tab and/or tick the 'User' box and click on search, after all.

[Wiglet]

.......Leaves thread as even though argument is more sophisticated than Charley and Shabz ever was I'd rather not step in the middle of the firing line!

[DavinaRocks]

Shipwrecked started in 1997 then came back last year and this year

Wrong. Shipwrecked started in ... 2000 the same year as Big Brother and Survivor.

It then returned in 2006 with the new format.