[Niamh.]

Thread Inspired by Scotts thread***

I see some people chose Bears and some chose Gorillas in that thread asking which you would chose to defend you.

I have done some extensive research into this subject and the answer is more on the side of the winner being

Spoiler:

[Ammi]

...the bear for sure..(..I think...)...it’s much bigger and more of a power house....



...I saw this, this morning...I can’t do a vid so I’ll post the whole link...1 bear vs 2 dogs...


https://youtu.be/Mkx1T4ckl0U

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the bear for sure..(..I think...)...it’s much bigger and more of a power house....



...I saw this, this morning...I can’t do a vid so I’ll post the whole link...1 bear vs 2 dogs...


https://youtu.be/Mkx1T4ckl0U

Apparently the only animal that could beat a Grizzly bear is a Polar bear and also a Bison would have a chance if he managed to gore him in the stomach before the bear had a chance to strike him

[Livia]

Armoured bears, they're the worst.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently the only animal that could beat a Grizzly bear is a Polar bear and also a Bison would have a chance if he managed to gore him in the stomach before the bear had a chance to strike him

....I’m reading that a hippo as well, possibly....?...it’s larger and the skin is much thicker so less susceptible to bite/claw injury....

[Daniel.]

Hm my idea for choosing gorilla was I felt it would intimate the likes of bears an wolves away, as well as (I though) being naturally stronger

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....I’m reading that a hippo as well, possibly....?...it’s larger and the skin is much thicker so less susceptible to bite/claw injury....

Hippos are angry kind of fellas alright but I wonder how much damage they could actually do to a bear? Their teeth are pretty sharp alright but they look kind of awkward to manoeuvre

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Hm my idea for choosing gorilla was I felt it would intimate the likes of bears an wolves away, as well as (I though) being naturally stronger

Bears are bigger and can be up to 3 times heavier than Gorillas.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Armoured bears, they're the worst.

I love bears, all sorts,they wouldn't hurt me Livia as all I want to do is cuddle them seriously though, my fave animals along with wolves,Im not so keen on Gorillas so happy that the bear is victorious.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Hippos are angry kind of fellas alright but I wonder how much damage they could actually do to a bear? Their teeth are pretty sharp alright but they look kind of awkward to manoeuvre

...yeah this is quite interesting...definitely in a ‘water fight’, a hippo would win is what I’m reading...but in a land fight, the opinions seem to be more mixed...



The Hippo has powerful jaws and exceptional quickness. "On the National Geographic Channel television program, "Dangerous Encounters with Brady Barr", Dr. Brady Barr measured the bite pressure of an adult female hippo at 1,821 lb (826 kg); Barr also attempted to measure the bite pressure of an adult male hippo, but had to abandon the attempt due to the male's aggressiveness."

I think the Grizzly would try to circle around the Hippo to attack its more vulnerable flank, but fail. The Hippo could just turn in place.

The Hippo eventually kills the Grizzly by either trampling it underfoot, maiming it with a vicious chomp, or squashing it with a Sumo-style bellyflop.

This is all considering a dry land confrontation. In even 1-2' of water, the Grizzly would be practically defenseless.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah this is quite interesting...definitely in a ‘water fight’, a hippo would win is what I’m reading...but in a land fight, the opinions seem to be more mixed...



The Hippo has powerful jaws and exceptional quickness. "On the National Geographic Channel television program, "Dangerous Encounters with Brady Barr", Dr. Brady Barr measured the bite pressure of an adult female hippo at 1,821 lb (826 kg); Barr also attempted to measure the bite pressure of an adult male hippo, but had to abandon the attempt due to the male's aggressiveness."

I think the Grizzly would try to circle around the Hippo to attack its more vulnerable flank, but fail. The Hippo could just turn in place.

The Hippo eventually kills the Grizzly by either trampling it underfoot, maiming it with a vicious chomp, or squashing it with a Sumo-style bellyflop.

This is all considering a dry land confrontation. In even 1-2' of water, the Grizzly would be practically defenseless.

Interesting. They are pretty cool animals, I watched a really good documentary about them recently, can't remember what it was called though

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Interesting. They are pretty cool animals, I watched a really good documentary about them recently, can't remember what it was called though

...I can feel an afternoon of Discovery channels coming on for me....(...maybe pjs and a blanket as well.....)...

...but yeah, these are the sort of discussions we all get completely engrossed in at school...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I can feel an afternoon of Discovery channels coming on for me....(...maybe pjs and a blanket as well.....)...

...but yeah, these are the sort of discussions we all get completely engrossed in at school...

Sounds like heaven

haha me and Luke have spent many a long car journey debating the age old question of "Who would win in a fight...........?"

[Calderyon]

Would be quite an even match.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Would be quite an even match.

It wouldn't though because a bear is alot bigger and stronger than a Gorilla

[Calderyon]

Maybe they merge and become a creature called Borilla.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It wouldn't though because a bear is alot bigger and stronger than a Gorilla

We need to see an actual match to be sure.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

We need to see an actual match to be sure.

Expert Fight Analysis :

Spoiler:

As I said earlier, I don’t think this is a close battle at all. Looking at the size difference alone, a grizzly is often at least twice as heavy and can be three times as heavy as a gorilla. That is a very large difference. That is a 70 lb person fighting a 150-210 lb person, or a 150 lb person fighting a 300-450 lb person.

The gorilla has very little in the way of defense. It doesn’t have extremely thick skin so the bear’s claws and bite will easily rip into the flesh. Its bones are thick but not thick enough to withstand the onslaught of the bear.

Many people talk about how strong gorillas are, and they are very strong – compared to humans. Gorillas can snap down small trees and there is a video of one breaking glass in a zoo or dragging a person along easily. I agree that gorillas are strong. Exactly how strong is quite difficult to measure and strength is always task specific. But they are not strong compared to grizzly bears. Grizzly bears also routinely push over trees, roll over giant stones and move other heavy objects. There are videos of them flipping heavy trash bins. One researcher noted a grizzly flipped over a 700 lb bin many times with ease. Grizzlies have very thick hides, when a large Kodiak bear died it was noted that it had a layer of fat 7 inches thick.



The gorilla only has one attack on a grizzly: a bite. Gorillas do have a fearsome bite and I have no doubt the bite would do some damage, but it would have to kill the grizzly almost immediately. Punching a grizzly, even from a gorilla, would do minimal damage. The neck is too thick to choke or snap. With smaller adversaries a gorilla could pick them up, smash them around, and even rip off a limb with its strength. I don’t see anyway it could do any of those things to a grizzly.



The grizzly could bite while it was getting bitten and it could swipe with its massive claws. Look at the size of the claws, those are essentially daggers that could easily rend the flesh of the gorilla. The gorilla would have a hard time reaching the neck of the grizzly, seeing how much shorter it is (6’ vs 9 or 10’). And I believe a grizzly could easily push over the gorilla if they went chest to chest, given its much greater size.

Let’s use a few other examples that might highlight this outcome more clearly.

Who would win, a leopard vs a grizzly bear? I think most people would agree that a grizzly destroys a leopard. Leopards actually live with gorillas and regularly fight them. They don’t always win, sometimes the leopard wins, sometimes the gorilla wins, sometimes they are found dead next to each other. That is a relatively even match and a leopard is 150 lbs or so. Most people agree that a Grizzly beats any big cat, and a tiger is far tougher than a leopard.



I asked hunters if they had a 9-mm pistol and a grizzly bear was charging them, would they feel confident they could kill it? Most said no, the gun would damage but not kill the bear and it would just anger it. Many said the gun would not even be able to penetrate the skull of the grizzly. If a 9-mm can’t stop a bear, a punch from a gorilla won’t either.

I think most people would agree if you had a 9-mm pistol and a gorilla was charging, you would have a much greater chance of killing the gorilla, again because it doesn’t have any significant defense. It still may not be strong enough to stop a gorilla, but the general point is you need a much stronger gun to kill a grizzly than you do a gorilla.

http://allaboutpowerlifting.com/gori...zzly-who-wins/

[Calderyon]

Still need to see the actual match to be sure.

(With playable odds so you can bet on the outcome.)

[Ammi]

...a grizzly bear vs a t-Rex, I wonder...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...a grizzly bear vs a t-Rex, I wonder...

t-rex and his cursed short arms is bound to lose, he's like a chicken with sharp teeth

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

t-rex and his cursed short arms is bound to lose, he's like a chicken with sharp teeth

.....hmmmm, according to someone on Reddit...it would take 5 grizzlys and 5 polars to take down the mighty T Rex....


The T-Rex is estimated to have weighed in at 15,000 pounds. The heaviest polar bears 1500 pounds. The heaviest grizzlies are 790 pounds.
The biggest Polar Bear is 10 feet long. (There are freaks but I'm just going with the max stats provided by wikipedia.) Grizzly Bears are much shorter at 6 feet in length. The T-Rex is 40 feet long.
There is less of a weight difference between me and my cat than there is between the T-Rex and a grizzly bear. All told combined the T-Rex still has a 4000 pound advantage roughly on all of them. Combined with the fact that none of the bears have any idea how to work together, and that they are unlikely to have ever had any experience with a killing machine that much bigger than themselves...

[Jessica.]

The bear would win because of size and the claws, gorillas can bite but not to cause enough damage that a bears claws and bite would have.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....hmmmm, according to someone on Reddit...it would take 5 grizzlys and 5 polars to take down the mighty T Rex....


The T-Rex is estimated to have weighed in at 15,000 pounds. The heaviest polar bears 1500 pounds. The heaviest grizzlies are 790 pounds.
The biggest Polar Bear is 10 feet long. (There are freaks but I'm just going with the max stats provided by wikipedia.) Grizzly Bears are much shorter at 6 feet in length. The T-Rex is 40 feet long.
There is less of a weight difference between me and my cat than there is between the T-Rex and a grizzly bear. All told combined the T-Rex still has a 4000 pound advantage roughly on all of them. Combined with the fact that none of the bears have any idea how to work together, and that they are unlikely to have ever had any experience with a killing machine that much bigger than themselves...

King Kong did beat two of them at one time though

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Kong Kong did beat two of them at one time though

......this is so much like the classroom discussions we have, when someone will say...what about ******** pokemon, though....(...and we’ll all sit with our iPads, trying to google something to take that pokemon DOWN....)...