[Kazanne]

Would you volunteer to be a tester for Corona virus vaccine?

[bitontheslide]

Nope, i wouldn't, even if i were younger. I commend efforts to get a vaccine ready as soon as possible, but things are being rushed and that brings with it much greater risk

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Nope, i wouldn't, even if i were younger. I commend efforts to get a vaccine ready as soon as possible, but things are being rushed and that brings with it much greater risk

I think I would bots IF I didn't have children ,but I suppose its easier to say than do.

[caprimint]

Seriously considered it, you get hella money for it

[arista]

Yes so long as its High Money Payment

[Cherie]

No, I can't stand getting a cold at the best of times, kudos to those that do it though even if it is for cold hard cash and not in the interest of science.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes so long as its High Money Payment

I'm guessing it will be a pretty penny arista,but would you do it for free ?

[parmnion]

I would do it for free.

[Twosugars]

Yes, I would volunteer

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I would do it for free.

Good man Parmy, wouldn't it be something if a cure was found quite soon ?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Seriously considered it, you get hella money for it

You get £4k which imo is not enough for that

[Toy Soldier]

**** that, I have a family and untested vaccines have more than once had a 100% death rate.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Yes, I would volunteer

Yes,I think I would too if I hadn't got children, it would be nice to feel your doing something towards helping.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

**** that, I have a family and untested vaccines have more than once had a 100% death rate.

Oh blimey , didn't know that , glad I have children then, that's my excuse.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh blimey , didn't know that , glad I have children then, that's my excuse.

there is no benefit in getting paid 5k or whatever if you are not around to spend it. It is important that it gets tested obviously, but given the speed these vaccines have come to trial, they will only take on people in peak health and fitness in the early stages of testing

[LeatherTrumpet]

does no one remember that time all these people died when this type of thing went wrong

i think it was made into a film?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

does no one remember that time all these people died when this type of thing went wrong

i think it was made into a film?

Didn't they get massive heads?

[Toy Soldier]

Medical testing in general is such a huge moral grey area. It tends to be undertaken by single people with few attachments who are in need of the money because it pays so well, but it comes with massive risks of life-long side effects. On the other hand, if no one did it, we wouldn't have even a fraction of the medical advances we have today.

I guess it's an easier choice when it's something like an experimental cancer treatment, or another chronic condition, and you already have that condition. Sort of like a "Well I might as well give it a shot!" ... but something like a vaccine, the whole point is that it has to be tested on healthy adults, which makes it a bit of a Russian Roulette. On top of that they (for obvious reasons) are rushing these vaccines to the human testing phase MUCH faster than they usually would, skipping or accelerating a lot of the "pre-testing" stuff, which makes it even riskier.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

You get £4k which imo is not enough for that

£4k goes a loooong way, if you die then you wouldn't know anyway so why not

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Medical testing in general is such a huge moral grey area. It tends to be undertaken by single people with few attachments who are in need of the money because it pays so well, but it comes with massive risks of life-long side effects. On the other hand, if no one did it, we wouldn't have even a fraction of the medical advances we have today.

I guess it's an easier choice when it's something like an experimental cancer treatment, or another chronic condition, and you already have that condition. Sort of like a "Well I might as well give it a shot!" ... but something like a vaccine, the whole point is that it has to be tested on healthy adults, which makes it a bit of a Russian Roulette. On top of that they (for obvious reasons) are rushing these vaccines to the human testing phase MUCH faster than they usually would, skipping or accelerating a lot of the "pre-testing" stuff, which makes it even riskier.

test it on older people, who this virus is fatal to anyway, so what do they have to lose

if vaccine works, they have a chance of survival

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

does no one remember that time all these people died when this type of thing went wrong

i think it was made into a film?

There was also thalidomide ... and that was just a sleeping pill. Turned out if you took it while pregnant, the babies were born with missing limbs. We had a thalidomide victim as a customer in my shop - rich as **** because he got a multi-million £ settlement. No arms though. He had to bop the FOBT button with his shoulder.

[smudgie]

No.
Not a chance, but I am happy to be the one that they decide not to treat if it comes to the crunch.
As long as they send me off with morphine.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There was also thalidomide ... and that was just a sleeping pill. Turned out if you took it while pregnant, the babies were born with missing limbs. We had a thalidomide victim as a customer in my shop - rich as **** because he got a multi-million £ settlement. No arms though. He had to bop the FOBT button with his shoulder.

It's sad and disgusting what happened to the thalidomide victims. The people responsible for that don't seem to care what they've caused. They didn't do any testing on it.

I saw a documentary about an Australian guy who's mother unfortunately took it whilst pregnant with him. He has no arms and uses his feet for everything.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

test it on older people, who this virus is fatal to anyway, so what do they have to lose

if vaccine works, they have a chance of survival

They need to know how it affects all age ranges though, so they have to test it on all adult age ranges.

Also Nicky you're usually good at avoiding misinformation with Covid... it is NOT a death sentence for the elderly, the death rate for even elderly cases is "only" 20% or thereabouts. Now that is obviously very high, it means 1-in-5 elderly people who get it will die however most elderly people do recover... it's not a case of "Oh I've got it, so that's it, might as well test drugs on myself". Even 50% who end up in ICU with breathing assistance pull through.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Didn't they get massive heads?

They swelled up like balloons I’m not sure if any died tho.