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26-03-2020, 08:34 PM | #1 | ||
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I know a lot of people aren't interested in or don't want to hear about the grey areas on this so I thought I'd keep this out of the "main" thread.
Article from the Washington Post. Covers some of the stuff I've been talking about and IMO something that is going to need serious consideration within the next month or two. Well worth a read and ponder. Quote:
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26-03-2020, 08:45 PM | #2 | |||
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26-03-2020, 08:48 PM | #3 | ||
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To briefly give my own two cents, I do absolutely think that a short-term lockdown to give preparation time, bolster the NHS and mitigate the potential initial surge is absolutely the right move.
I think that sensible social distancing policies, hygiene policies and banning of large gatherings etc. should be in place indefinitely - until either a vaccine is developed or wide scale testing shows high levels of immunity in the population. Also sensible to carry on Web conferencing / Web business in place of international travel for as long as possible. Considering climate implications I'd say do it forever? But I think a stricter full lockdown beyond that, lasting more than 3 or 4 months, is dangerous, reckless and will come at an untold cost that we can't really comprehend yet. I'm genuinely worried that we're headed for a much scarier cliff than Covid in the next few years. |
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26-03-2020, 08:49 PM | #4 | ||
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This is near enough full lockdown, if we carry on as we are now for 6+ months the economy will collapse. That doesn't mean recession... That means total breakdown of essential services and supplies.
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26-03-2020, 09:00 PM | #5 | |||
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yeah, i think we need this lock down now in order to get the readiness levels up and the equipment in place. Then get anti body testing in full roll out so that we know who is then safe to work because they already had it ... My feeling is that is a lot, and it will allow us to collect much much more information on the spread.
One issue that I heard recently (which is obvious, but it hadnt occurred to me) is that each patient requiring a ventilator needs it for a few days, but those that arent going to recover are basically artificially kept alive ... so not only are they taking ventilators for an extended period from people who could possibly recover if they got put on one, someone in many cases has to take the decision to take them off the ventilator .... it's a horrible situation |
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26-03-2020, 09:07 PM | #6 | ||
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Getting a quick and reliable test will be the first real breakthrough against the virus second a cure or better way of treating the virus.
Personally I think we should be making high grade full face masks so people could could function as normally as possible with each other while having greater protection. |
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26-03-2020, 09:27 PM | #7 | ||
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I agree that antibody testing is a key piece of the puzzle, we won't have any real idea of the situation until that's happening on a large scale. Apparently it does exist already though, still undergoing testing for accuracy before being rolled out.
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27-03-2020, 04:26 AM | #8 | |||
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I know, it's only temporary. If you stop the economy for too long, it might never recover.
Antibodies testing is the key to stop the virus. How many of us may have had this and not know it?
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27-03-2020, 04:45 AM | #9 | |||
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the Deputy Medical Lady says it can be a 6months Lockdown |
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27-03-2020, 04:46 AM | #10 | |||
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27-03-2020, 04:48 AM | #11 | |||
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It will change everything. But since that Deputy Medical Lady said it can be 6Months I am ready for that. Unlike you TS. |
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27-03-2020, 07:26 AM | #12 | |||
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completely agree TS, a lockdown isn't a cure, just a means to slow down the spread and a last case scenario option when ignorant bigots disobey the rules and go on Streets without masks, gloves, when bigots cough at other people to make them feel even more uncomfortable (for the lolz and the likes)
then a lockdown is a better option to restrict access to the Streets to most people, and only allow people to leave their home for supermarket, doctor in south-africa even walking the dog is now forbidden in these 3 weeks
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27-03-2020, 08:14 AM | #13 | |||
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saves lives Thats all that matters not TS and his problems/hang ups |
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27-03-2020, 08:18 AM | #14 | |||
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Lockdown is necessary unfortunately because the thickos couldn’t stay at home if the shops etc were open
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27-03-2020, 09:14 AM | #15 | ||
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27-03-2020, 09:25 AM | #16 | |||
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closing down bars, restaurants, cancelling public events is already helping
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27-03-2020, 09:52 AM | #17 | |||
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27-03-2020, 10:01 AM | #18 | ||
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Patients of redeployed Community nurses are already dying. I understand that YOU are afraid because you're in an at risk category, but you're not going to flippantly dismiss my concerns for the wider population arista. Economic collapse will cost lives. It might not cost YOUR life - your life might be more at risk from Covid than from economic collapse - so you might be willing to pretend that isn't true... But the fact remains, and it's a tightrope that the government is going to have to walk at some point. Britain will "reopen for business" before there is a vaccine and you should be aware of that. |
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