[Zizu]

Some good news maybe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-scrapped.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Some good news maybe

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-scrapped.html

Yes James posted all that on Shauns
(wrong death total title) thread

[Smithy]

Welp

[Zizu]

This is why I’m so wary about everything we’re told by politicians...

It’s not a Tory flaw it’s sadly something they’re all guilty of


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[Gstar]

“20,000 deaths is a good result”

This thread didn’t age well

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Zizu

This is why I’m so wary about everything we’re told by politicians...

It’s not a Tory flaw it’s sadly something they’re all guilty of


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You can't 'both sides' this when the Tories have been in control for the past decade. Any failings by the government are tory failings. I've had it officially with 'both sides' bull****.

[The Slim Reaper]

Some horrific downplaying early in this thread. Weird reading it back after the time passed and what has happened in between.

[Zizu]

Has anyone heard how many cases of the SA variant we have in the uk ?

We were initially told there were just TWO unconnected cases but I’ve heard nothing since ..


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[Smithy]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Some horrific downplaying early in this thread. Weird reading it back after the time passed and what has happened in between.

Yep and none of them seem to have returned to comment on the thread now which is interesting

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I was just reading about this so sad and 100% with what you say here, my guess is people will have very short memories.

What were there names?

[LeatherTrumpet]

using death?

wow

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Some horrific downplaying early in this thread. Weird reading it back after the time passed and what has happened in between.

I just skimmed through the first 50 posts and still stand by basically every single thing I said, and still think I'll be proven right about seasonal Covid of lesser severity.

I mean the only other possibilities are that Covid is the big one, the humanity ender. (it isn't) OR that it will be eliminated entirely with vaccination (and I'm sorry guys but... It simply won't).

[bitontheslide]

the government wasn't wrong, 20,000 would have been a good result

[joeysteele]

The death total has become obscene and a scandal.
From in part the reckless and dangerous decisions and procrastination of the government, when it's deliberately chosen to disregard health and science advice.

Also on its preparing, or more like it not preparing for how to deal with this pandemic.

However it was the health and science who originally stated 20,000 would be a good result.
Not the government, they just went with that view from them.

Although how anyone, government, health or science so called expert or layperson.
Could ever term in any context, 20,000 deaths and the grief and devastation that brings to at least hundreds of thousands of families and friends of those lost loved ones, as a good result is disgraceful.

[James]

I don't really comment on Covid anymore on here because I realised I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to viruses - none of us really do.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by James

I don't really comment on Covid anymore on here because I realised I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to viruses - none of us really do.

True, unless we are virologists who have actually studied the science, what we need to do is social distance, wear masks, limit social interactions and wash our hands but instead we have a whole new cohort of people who suddenly know what to do better than scientists

[Toy Soldier]

You shouldn't disagree with scientific concensus but I fundamentally disagree that you should just shrug your shoulders and yield to others instead of educating yourself on a topic... What a grim reality .

[Josy]

Originally Posted by James

I don't really comment on Covid anymore on here because I realised I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to viruses - none of us really do.

Theres plenty of armchair experts that's for sure (online in general)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by James

I don't really comment on Covid anymore on here because I realised I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to viruses - none of us really do.

Same tbh

[Toy Soldier]

Why do you even have a serious debates section if you so strongly believe that we should all know our place, tip our caps and accept status quo without examination? odd.

I agree that DECISIONS should be left to people with expertise, but discussion is just that - discussion.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Decisions should be left to those who have been elected to make them, experts inform those people with all the best facts available.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Why do you even have a serious debates section if you so strongly believe that we should all know our place, tip our caps and accept status quo without examination? odd.

I agree that DECISIONS should be left to people with expertise, but discussion is just that - discussion.

How did you end up at that conclusion from the few previous posts?

Just because someone has a personal opinion on a single subject doesnt mean they think everyone should have that projected on to them about every topic possible, no one mentioned having a problem with serious debates/discussion :/

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by James

I don't really comment on Covid anymore on here because I realised I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to viruses - none of us really do.

Originally Posted by Josy

How did you end up at that conclusion from the few previous posts?

Just because someone has a personal opinion on a single subject doesnt mean they think everyone should have that projected on to them about every topic possible, no one mentioned having a problem with serious debates/discussion :/

Because if the above opinion applies to "viruses" then it should equally apply to all topics, unless you're taking the completely illogical stance that it's fine to debate some topics you don't have expert knowledge of, but not others.

In terms of it being a personal stance - which I could have accepted - "because I don't really know what I'm talking about" is a personal reflection, but it ceases to be one and becomes a broad statement with clear implications when "none of us do" is added to the end.

"There's plenty of armchair experts" is also not a personal reflection .

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because if the above opinion applies to "viruses" then it should equally apply to all topics, unless you're taking the completely illogical stance that it's fine to debate some topics you don't have expert knowledge of, but not others.

In terms of it being a personal stance - which I could have accepted - "because I don't really know what I'm talking about" is a personal reflection, but it ceases to be one and becomes a broad statement with clear implications when "none of us do" is added to the end.

"There's plenty of armchair experts" is also not a personal reflection .

someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning

[James]

I'm not saying anyone else shouldn't comment on it. By all means knock yourself out.

Just me. I've decided just to hunker down and wait for it all to be over.