[parmnion]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Also remember two countries that haven't been as badly affected - New Zealand and Australia - have been in their summer

And it seems to be heading westwards rather than eastwards from China.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

uv light kills it, so it can still pass person to person but it wont survive outside for long

Sunlight is one of the best natural disinfectants there is, (and is why other viruses are less active in summer) - there is still plenty of reason to believe that longer days will help bring numbers down. The myth of course is that it has anything to do with heat (people believing that it still spreading in hotter countries meant summer wouldn't help). Number of daylight hours is the more important factor. Though direct sunlight is better so hope for a clear summer, not a grey one like last year.

Of course that's why it could also massively surge at the end of September and no one should get complacent over summer. If it DOES decline significantly in June/July we should use the three summer months to bolster ICU capacity and ventilators so that healthcare services are hopefully over-prepared once we get back into long nights and a potential second wave. I'd imagine another lockdown in October-December is also very possible.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Sunlight is one of the best natural disinfectants there is, (and is why other viruses are less active in summer) - there is still plenty of reason to believe that longer days will help bring numbers down. The myth of course is that it has anything to do with heat (people believing that it still spreading in hotter countries meant summer wouldn't help). Number of daylight hours is the more important factor. Though direct sunlight is better so hope for a clear summer, not a grey one like last year.

Of course that's why it could also massively surge at the end of September and no one should get complacent over summer. If it DOES decline significantly in June/July we should use the three summer months to bolster ICU capacity and ventilators so that healthcare services are hopefully over-prepared once we get back into long nights and a potential second wave. I'd imagine another lockdown in October-December is also very possible.

I'm saving up money to plane hop to warmer climates as it spreads next winter.

[bitontheslide]

one could invest in a uv lamp and blast everything with it for 10 mins when its brought into the house

[The Slim Reaper]

Bots when he gets his new lamp

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

uv light kills it, so it can still pass person to person but it wont survive outside for long

Makes you wonder why they were stopping people sunbathing then tbh, I read it couldn't survive over 26 degrees not that we ever get near that here

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

one could invest in a uv lamp and blast everything with it for 10 mins when its brought into the house

Is the queen getting one? ..

[James]

The higher temperatures in California might also partly explain why Los Angeles hasn't been as badly affected as New York. As well as people being more spread out in LA and they also like driving everywhere, whereas New York uses public transport more.

I always thought that with colds and flu, more people got them during the winter because they congregated indoors more, and they spread more easily, but I'm not sure how much that is true.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is the queen getting one? ..

it's when i start using the royal 'we' you really have to worry

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by James

The higher temperatures in California might also partly explain why Los Angeles hasn't been as badly affected as New York. As well as people being more spread out in LA and they also like driving everywhere, whereas New York uses public transport more.

I always thought that with colds and flu, more people got them during the winter because they congregated indoors more, and they spread more easily, but I'm not sure how much that is true.

I've been thinking the same.

Also been thinking about how the mass, mass majority of people who live in NYC obviously live in high-rise apartments/skyscrapers, which all have shared air conditioning systems. Both of these are pretty big factors in the spread. The fact there are potentially hundreds in one building, using the same elevators/stairs etc and then the same A/C which can spread germs room to room, apartment to apartment very quickly. I know it's cold there now as you mentioned, but surely many will still be using their air con.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Well my old mum's house should be ok as it shares the same ambient temperature as the surface of Mercury

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well my old mum's house should be ok as it shares the same ambient temperature as the surface of Mercury

temperature isn't relevant it's uv light intensity that does the trick. If it's a sunny day, open all the windows and let the light stream in. UV doesn't pass through glass

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

temperature isn't relevant it's uv light intensity that does the trick. If it's a sunny day, open all the windows and let the light stream in. UV doesn't pass through glass

She hasn't to opened a window since 1982

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

temperature isn't relevant it's uv light intensity that does the trick. If it's a sunny day, open all the windows and let the light stream in. UV doesn't pass through glass

True .. although I’ve never really understood WHY the UV rays don’t pass through glass !


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

True .. although I’ve never really understood WHY the UV rays don’t pass through glass !


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well they will pass through a bit, but not efficiently. There are not many of us that slap the sun tan lotion on if we are sitting inside on a sunny day

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

True .. although I’ve never really understood WHY the UV rays don’t pass through glass !


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Most modern glass is specifically designed to block UV rays because they of course, much as we love them, technically cause damage (its the UV that gives you sun burn, and skin cancer...). So you also for example can pay more for windscreen glass that has a higher UV filtering level if you drive around a lot in sunny climates.

It causing sunburn is the same reason it kills bacteria and viruses btw... You can also bleach (some) stains out of white clothes by leaving them out in strong sunlight

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well they will pass through a bit, but not efficiently. There are not many of us that slap the sun tan lotion on if we are sitting inside on a sunny day

Just to add more interesting junk knowledge; on the topic of suntan lotion, the reason it protects your skin from the sun is that it contains microparticles that do exactly the same thing as glass (let visible light through whilst blocking UV)

[Zizu]

Interesting info , peeps . Regards


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[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Well my old mum's house should be ok as it shares the same ambient temperature as the surface of Mercury

Haha.... like my Grandmother. Her heating has a tropical setting, I'm sure.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

Haha.... like my Grandmother. Her heating has a tropical setting, I'm sure.

When we visit my wife's grandparents - usually in the middle of summer as they live down in England - they ALWAYS have the gas fire on in the living room. Always. I can't physically handle it for more than 15 minutes, I feel like I'm going to literally pass out... And they have it like that permanently .

[arista]

Total of Deaths now : 793 from Covid 19

[arista]

Total of Deaths now : 873
Covid 19 getting a Hold in Sweden.

[arista]

Sweden: 887 Death Total today

[Zizu]

Interesting to see that Sweden have 4 to 5 times more deaths than Denmark, Norway or Finland yet only have DOUBLE the others populations !!


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[James]

Sweden has not done enough, admits PM

Throughout the pandemic, Sweden's response to the coronavirus has been an odd one out. Unlike most of Europe, it did not introduce a lockdown - cafes and restaurants remain open, and schools have not closed. Although the government advised against non-essential travel, it has largely been business as usual, albeit a bit quieter.

Now Prime Minister Stefan Löfven has admitted that Sweden was not properly prepared for the pandemic and that it is "obvious that country has not done enough". Restaurants not observing social distancing should be shut, he told Swedish broadcaster SVT.

In Sweden, 870 people have died from the virus - many more than neighbours Denmark (247) and Norway (113), where lockdowns were introduced in early March.

That is from the BBC.