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01-04-2020, 10:09 PM | #1 | |||
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Non of their star players or managers have opted to take a pay cut and still continue to earn thousands a week with sum earning 200k while they have asked the government to pay the wages of the non playing staff.
What a spiteful and greedy bunch of people surely they could take a pay cut to stop people losing their jobs. Boris should actually force them to take a pay cut to pay for the other staff.
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01-04-2020, 10:12 PM | #2 | ||
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How dose taking a pay cut help Sure there could give some money to the staff As for applying for money it good for business |
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01-04-2020, 10:13 PM | #3 | |||
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They earn to much money as it is
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01-04-2020, 10:19 PM | #4 | ||
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I sure all the players pay tax so it just getting some of it back The government got loads of money anyway |
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01-04-2020, 10:27 PM | #5 | |||
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Because its morals there is no need for them to take home so much for not working waving it in the face of people who have lost jobs and unable to feed the families
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01-04-2020, 10:43 PM | #6 | |||
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02-04-2020, 02:02 AM | #7 | |||
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Businesses can't operate unless they have money coming in though.
It's no different to British Airways who have just suspended 80% of their staff. |
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02-04-2020, 02:07 AM | #8 | |||
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There's a clear difference between BA being unable to fly and Tottenham Hotspur still making thousands on merchandise, advertising and sponsorships. If players' salaries aren't being cut, there's no excuse for this move. Not when other, smaller, clubs manage.
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02-04-2020, 02:11 AM | #9 | |||
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for Pilots thus keeping their jobs on hold. Everything is Frozen best way to look forward a year ahead. |
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02-04-2020, 02:21 AM | #10 | |||
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Sure a few young may buy gear. But that is not a massive profit. Some Smaller Clubs were going under anyway but some like you say a few Survived by mega cut backs |
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02-04-2020, 02:27 AM | #11 | |||
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But companies won't advertise or sponsor when there is no games for their brands to be seen, and merchandise won't sell when shops are shut. TV companies won't pay for broadcasting rights also, and there's no (new) ticket sales either. |
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02-04-2020, 02:43 AM | #12 | |||
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if they are effectively laying off the non playing staff, they should be doing something with the others, it's not like they are an essential service, it's not like the players are going to suffer financial hardship. It does strike me as very unfair.
This is why I think a continuation of the league is a non starter. Spurs are one of the more affluent clubs, players contracts are going to be broken across the board, most aren't going to be in a position to continue where they left off, and its likely that a proportion will be out of business. |
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02-04-2020, 06:54 AM | #13 | |||
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Premier League clubs are living in a "moral vacuum" and players should be first to sacrifice salaries during the coronavirus pandemic, say politicians.
Julian Knight, the chair of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport committee, has condemned the actions of some Premier League clubs, who have furloughed non-playing staff. Tottenham, Newcastle, Bournemouth and Norwich have opted to utilise the government's job retention scheme. "It sticks in the throat," said Knight. "This exposes the crazy economics in English football and the moral vacuum at its centre." On Wednesday, Bournemouth announced that "a number of staff" would be furloughed, while the club's chief executive Neill Blake, first-team technical director Richard Hughes, manager Eddie Howe and assistant manager Jason Tindall have taken "significant, voluntary pay cuts". The Professional Footballers’ Association has written to all of its members urging them not to agree any reduction or deferral in wages until they have spoken to the union. In a letter seen by BBC Sport, the PFA says: "The PFA requested to see each club's financial situation before we offer advice to players on whether to accept the terms offered. "Before accepting or signing any paperwork from your club, it is vitally important that squads collectively discuss proposals with the PFA." In a joint statement the Premier League, EFL, PFA and League Managers' Association said they had a "constructive meeting" on Wednesday "regarding the challenges facing the game". "The meeting reiterated that the overriding priority is the health and well-being of the nation - including that of players, coaches, managers, club staff and supporters - and everyone agreed football must only return when it is safe and appropriate to do so," the statement said. "No decisions were taken with discussions set to continue in the next 48 hours with a focus on several high-profile matters, including player wages and the resumption of the 2019-20 season." Mayor of London Sadiq Khan told BBC Radio 5 Live top-flight players should be the ones to "carry the burden". "My view is always that those who are the least well-off should get the most help," he said. "Highly paid football players are people who can carry the greatest burden and they should be the first ones to, with respect, sacrifice their salary, rather than the person selling the programme or the person who does catering or the person who probably doesn't get anywhere near the salary some of the Premier League footballers get. "It should be those with the broadest shoulders who go first because they can carry the greatest burden and have probably got savings, rather than those who work in catering or hospitality who have probably got no savings and live week by week and who probably won’t get the [government] benefits for five weeks." The Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme means the government will pay staff placed on furlough - temporary leave - 80% of their wages, to a maximum of Ł2,500 a month. Knight is concerned the scheme is not being used in the appropriate way. "This isn't what it's designed for. It's not designed to effectively allow them to continue to pay people hundreds of thousands of pounds, while at the same time furloughing staff on hundreds of pounds," said the MP for Solihull. "I don't know whether or not the Treasury can legally turn down these applications. "But at the same time I think football needs to have a good, long, hard look at itself and see whether or not morally this is really right and whether or not actually what they need to do is come to an arrangement with some of their stars so they can continue to pay their [non-playing] staff 100% of their wages rather than furloughing them on 80%." While some clubs have opted to use that scheme, a number have taken other steps to reduce their costs while football is suspended during the pandemic. Players at Championship leaders Leeds United have already volunteered to take a wage deferral while Birmingham City players who earn more than Ł6,000 a week have been asked to take a 50% cut for the next four months. In Europe, Barcelona players have taken a 70% pay cut while Juventus players and manager Maurizio Sarri have agreed to freeze their pay for four months. However, Lord Mervyn King, former governor of the Bank of England, says Tottenham's decision is fair, and Brighton & Hove Albion chief executive and deputy chairman Paul Barber says he can understand why clubs such as Spurs would furlough staff. Brighton have committed to paying all matchday staff until the end of the season but Barber says he cannot rule out having to make cuts. "It's a very difficult time for everybody and I can fully understand why people think that the football industry and particularly the Premier League has got a lot of cash," he told BBC Radio 5 Live. "In many cases that's not the case, it's a bit of a myth, but what we have to do is protect jobs. "We’re doing whatever we can to do that and that’s the priority at the moment for just about every industry in the country, including ours." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52120578 |
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02-04-2020, 07:18 AM | #14 | |||
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Lionel Messi took a pay cut, secured full salary for club employees, and slammed the Barcelona board in a single statement
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02-04-2020, 07:27 AM | #15 | |||
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I know Milner and Henderson took pay cuts while Salah and mane give alot of their salary away to the more in need
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02-04-2020, 08:00 AM | #16 | ||
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03-04-2020, 08:39 AM | #17 | |||
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I don't see the problem? It's what the furlough option is for....they arent working so they get furloughed
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03-04-2020, 09:11 AM | #18 | |||
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So you think its acceptable for the club to player players the full 200k a week wages while not working instead of making paycuts so everyone gets paid?
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03-04-2020, 09:12 AM | #19 | |||
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You do realise furloughed will get 80% of their pay while not working..?
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03-04-2020, 09:15 AM | #20 | |||
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You know Harry Labe is against a paycut because he is a greedy selfish person with an ego as big as his head
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03-04-2020, 09:25 AM | #21 | ||
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But nah let's have the players keep their millions, we'll just cover everyone else's salary with national debt. I'm sure it'll be fine. When all this is over, everything will be peachy. No Covid No Prallems right? |
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03-04-2020, 09:29 AM | #22 | |||
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Being placed on furlough is similar to gardening leave. You would still be paid by your employer and will still pay taxes from your income — but you would not be able to continue working for your employer for the duration of the furlough. In this case, you would effectively be paid not to work until the end of June.
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03-04-2020, 09:31 AM | #23 | |||
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03-04-2020, 09:33 AM | #24 | |||
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They might be topping up 20%?
Could be worse they could put the players on furlough
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03-04-2020, 09:35 AM | #25 | |||
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Even Gary Lineker paid his last 2 month of salaries to a charity that helps people in this period of time, its about decency
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