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Old 07-04-2020, 05:16 PM #26
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I wish him a speedy recovery, but no. My thoughts are with everyone who is ill with the virus.

No doubt he has the best possible care atm too.
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When are we clapping for lady Gaga that’s the important question
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People keep acting like he said this two weeks ago - when he made that comment we had 51 cases. We now have 55,000

Obviously in hindsight it looks stupid but let's not act like we were all practicing social distancing back then or appreciated the importance of it. I also fail to see how it should disqualify him from receiving a show of support when he's critically ill in hospital
This is the guy that access to all of the information from across the world; including the sensitive undisclosed data that we wouldn't, it's not some random dude called Dave who works in oddbins.
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What has Boris done that’s particularly heroic or worthy of admiration in the same vein as nhs workers?

He’s been doing his job like the NHS...he has had to make BIG decisions that has an enormous effect on the people of this country. He leads the country with positivity and charisma..
I will be clapping him...but also every other person in this vulnerable situation.
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This sounds nice

It's crazy to me that someone of his stature is struggling with this when he's probably getting top-of-the-line aid (and is fairly healthy?)
He's a 55 year old male.

I don't mean that to sound flippant but the data is the data; risk of complications increases exponentially at 50+ and risk has been consistently higher for men. He's in the "Low ranges" of the riskier categories, but he's in there.

Hancock for example is 41 and recovered in under a week without complications.

Its not an exact science but the trends are extremely strong. The number of men aged 50-60 who get "worse than mild" is small compared to, say, the over-75's but its huge compared to under-45's.

He's also in a high-stress, high-pressure position and chose to continue working which won't have helped at all.

Also worth saying that, as things stand right now, his condition seems to be "the bad end of moderate"... He's not at this point in severe condition, and certainly not critical.

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He's a 55 year old male.

I don't mean that to sound flippant but the data is the data; risk of complications increases exponentially at 50+ and risk has been consistently higher for men. He's in the "Low ranges" of the riskier categories, but he's in there.

Hancock for example is 41 and recovered in under a week without complications.

Its not an exact science but the trends are extremely strong. The number of men aged 50-60 who get "worse than mild" is small compared to, say, the over-75's but its huge compared to under-45's.

He's also in a high-stress, high-pressure position and chose to continue working which won't have helped at all.

Also worth saying that, as things stand right now, his condition seems to be "the bad end of moderate"... He's not at this point in severe condition, and certainly not critical.
we don't know that. When you start to deteriorate with this virus it happens quickly. Stable, is not a term used to describe someone that is out of danger
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No I won't be clapping , but as I said it's a very worrying time but he is getting the treatment he needs in hospital.
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we don't know that. When you start to deteriorate with this virus it happens quickly. Stable, is not a term used to describe someone that is out of danger
He doesn't currently have pneumonia and is not on ventilator. This has been reported quite widely. Severe condition for Covid-19 is active pneumonia. Critical condition is ventilator.

We don't know that he won't deteriorate further but going on anything other than the current/most recent information released is speculative. The most recent information is that he's not in severe condition.

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He’s been doing his job like the NHS...he has had to make BIG decisions that has an enormous effect on the people of this country. He leads the country with positivity and charisma..
I will be clapping him...but also every other person in this vulnerable situation.
Boris voted against it too. Listen to the tory cheers. Don't compare boris to the NHS.

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People keep acting like he said this two weeks ago - when he made that comment we had 51 cases. We now have 55,000

Obviously in hindsight it looks stupid but let's not act like we were all practicing social distancing back then or appreciated the importance of it. I also fail to see how it should disqualify him from receiving a show of support when he's critically ill in hospital
Omg RIGHT?!?!?!?!?

Like I really don't think any clapping is necessary to begin with, but it's funny how as soon as Boris gets corona there are so many people suddenly against the idea when they were all for clapping for the NHS.

Boris deserves it as much as the NHS for all of the hard work he's done, for running the country and doing his best even when he felt like ****.
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Omg RIGHT?!?!?!?!?



Like I really don't think any clapping is necessary to begin with, but it's funny how as soon as Boris gets corona there are so many people suddenly against the idea when they were all for clapping for the NHS.
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Ahem if you check in general chat you'll find a thread where I was furious about the clapping for the NHS lark to the point where it upset poor Parmy so I personally have been quite consistent .

In fact if anything my stance has softened. If people want to clap because it makes them feel better than whatever... Go for it. I still maintain that it means nothing to NHS workers (or Boris for that matter) and people are mainly doing it for their own wellbeing... Makes them feel like they're "doing something helpful".
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Omg RIGHT?!?!?!?!?

Like I really don't think any clapping is necessary to begin with, but it's funny how as soon as Boris gets corona there are so many people suddenly against the idea when they were all for clapping for the NHS.

Boris deserves it as much as the NHS for all of the hard work he's done, for running the country and doing his best even when he felt like ****.
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literally no one up my road was out tonight compared to thursday when the whole neighborhood was like a street party
Same here. I waited by the door for about 5 minutes but there was nothing. I didn’t want to clap myself alone!
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Ahem if you check in general chat you'll find a thread where I was furious about the clapping for the NHS lark to the point where it upset poor Parmy so I personally have been quite consistent .

In fact if anything my stance has softened. If people want to clap because it makes them feel better than whatever... Go for it. I still maintain that it means nothing to NHS workers (or Boris for that matter) and people are mainly doing it for their own wellbeing... Makes them feel like they're "doing something helpful".
I didn't mean you

I totally agree with your second paragraph btw
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I would have, but I think clapping can spread the virus from your hands into the atmosphere.

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I would gave but I think clapping can spread the virus from your hands into the atmosphere.
Omg you're STILL on fire
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Omg RIGHT?!?!?!?!?

Like I really don't think any clapping is necessary to begin with, but it's funny how as soon as Boris gets corona there are so many people suddenly against the idea when they were all for clapping for the NHS.

Boris deserves it as much as the NHS for all of the hard work he's done, for running the country and doing his best even when he felt like ****.
Excuse me for not wanting to clap some bigot who calls gays, tank top bum boys or Muslim women letterboxes, I don’t care how hard he works, he gets paid a **** load to do his job, the difference between him and NHS/Key workers is they don’t
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Excuse me for not wanting to clap some bigot who calls gays, tank top bum boys or Muslim women letterboxes, I don’t care how hard he works, he gets paid a **** load to do his job, the difference between him and NHS/Key workers is they don’t

I’ll clap for Smithy tbh
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