[caprimint]

I clapped for Boris tonight

[parmnion]

Mr Patel.

[parmnion]

It's just money to me.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Smithy

GDPR would have field day if they saw this

Copy it into Google search

[Toy Soldier]

I clapped in my wife's face for a couple of seconds but she got annoyed because it's still stupid and not about NHS staff.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I clapped in my wife's face for a couple of seconds but she got annoyed because it's still stupid and not about NHS staff.

Pretty much, I wonder how many people participate in these things without making sure that everybody on social media knew about it.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Pretty much, I wonder how many people participate in these things without making sure that everybody on social media knew about it.

It will be a release from all this mysery for some..Surely it's worth it, even if posting on facebook is a release mechanism for some..why even poo poo that?

[parmnion]

I honestly don't understand this anti clapping vibe and the belittling of people who decide to do it and show it.

[Marsh.]

If somebody is miserable, how is clapping a release from it? Not poo pooing, just asking.

[Scarlett.]

To put it this way, both my parents worked for decades in the NHS/Care homes, they want to do the clapping, so I join in, I'm not gonna be a "well actually" sort of person and ruin something that makes them feel better, they have good friends working in the NHS and if they feel like clapping helps allay some of that fear, then I'm all for it. End of the day it doesn't hurt anyone and it's a nice show of solidarity. In times like this maybe people need something to help them feel less useless?

[AnnieK]

My local area was loud...fireworks, car horns, pots and pans. We have a neighbour who is a paramedic who said they have had food parcels, cakes, beers left on their doorsteps. I'm not into this is virtue signalling ****e, I believe (and hope), its people who really value what these front line.workers are doing and see it as they are saving us all

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If somebody is miserable, how is clapping a release from it? Not poo pooing, just asking.

Cause for that brief moment it gives them a common goal..not everyone, but st least some.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

My local area was loud...fireworks, car horns, pots and pans. We have a neighbour who is a paramedic who said they have had food parcels, cakes, beers left on their doorsteps. I'm not into this is virtue signalling ****e, I believe (and hope), its people who really value what these front line.workers are doing and see it as they are saving us all

That why the death toll going up

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Scarlett.

To put it this way, both my parents worked for decades in the NHS/Care homes, they want to do the clapping, so I join in, I'm not gonna be a "well actually" sort of person and ruin something that makes them feel better, they have good friends working in the NHS and if they feel like clapping helps allay some of that fear, then I'm all for it. End of the day it doesn't hurt anyone and it's a nice show of solidarity. In times like this maybe people need something to help them feel less useless?

Both of my parents worked in the NHS for their whole careers, my wife is an NHS nurse (MH, but she's still out there in work) and she has dozens, if not more, friends working in acute adult medicine including several working in A&E and ICU departments from London to Aberdeen.

Personally I'm not talking about this as a "Well, actually" person from the sidelines - I'm stating the fact that many of the front-line NHS staff out there "being heroes" find the clapping incredibly frustrating when its coming from people - and being organised by tabloids - who have been taking them for granted and abusing them for years with low pay, poor conditions, and little consideration... And a government that has shown them nothing but contempt... But now one and all are happy to declare them "selfless heroes!" and treat them like soldiers. They're not "troops", they're skilled professionals who people have been happy to neglect when it suited but now are happy to place on a pedestal and hide behind like a wall of flesh, while they sit at home with a bag of doritos and clap.

How about people use that clapping time to write to their MP and DEMAND that the NHS is secured for the future, that NHS staff get a significant increase in pay and conditions, and state that they're happy to have their taxes increased to cover that? How about people show their appreciation by committing to never voting for a party that will mistreat and underpay healthcare workers ever again? I'm not saying everyone clapping ever did, but PLENTY of them did, and we all know deep down, once this has passed, they'll forget how "grateful" they were very, very quickly and no one will give a **** in two years time when nurses are still undervalued and underpaid.

[Toy Soldier]

To add another point, my wife is very engaged with the nursing community - to me, it seems that the majority of NHS staff range from "couldn't care less" to "actively dislike it" when it comes to the clapping. But I doubt anyone actually cares how the staff themselves are feeling.

Which, by the way, is generally... bullied, scared, undervalued by their superiors, powerless, and like people are happy to use them as cannon fodder.

Sorry if that ruins the superhero imagery.

[bitontheslide]

No-one round my area was out clapping at all. I think a lot of people are doing it because they don't want to be seen as the only household in the street that wasn't out clapping ... I can understand perhaps doing it once, but every week?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

No-one round my area was out clapping at all. I think a lot of people are doing it because they don't want to be seen as the only household in the street that wasn't out clapping ... I can understand perhaps doing it once, but every week?

It's April's "toilet paper hoarding"

[LeatherTrumpet]

It's just not something I'm interested in doing but if others wish to that is great

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I honestly don't understand this anti clapping vibe and the belittling of people who decide to do it and show it.

Are you new here?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Both of my parents worked in the NHS for their whole careers, my wife is an NHS nurse (MH, but she's still out there in work) and she has dozens, if not more, friends working in acute adult medicine including several working in A&E and ICU departments from London to Aberdeen.

Personally I'm not talking about this as a "Well, actually" person from the sidelines - I'm stating the fact that many of the front-line NHS staff out there "being heroes" find the clapping incredibly frustrating when its coming from people - and being organised by tabloids - who have been taking them for granted and abusing them for years with low pay, poor conditions, and little consideration... And a government that has shown them nothing but contempt... But now one and all are happy to declare them "selfless heroes!" and treat them like soldiers. They're not "troops", they're skilled professionals who people have been happy to neglect when it suited but now are happy to place on a pedestal and hide behind like a wall of flesh, while they sit at home with a bag of doritos and clap.

How about people use that clapping time to write to their MP and DEMAND that the NHS is secured for the future, that NHS staff get a significant increase in pay and conditions, and state that they're happy to have their taxes increased to cover that? How about people show their appreciation by committing to never voting for a party that will mistreat and underpay healthcare workers ever again? I'm not saying everyone clapping ever did, but PLENTY of them did, and we all know deep down, once this has passed, they'll forget how "grateful" they were very, very quickly and no one will give a **** in two years time when nurses are still undervalued and underpaid.

Great time to urge people to write to their MP, TS.

Can't we get over the whole virus thing and then continue with the political scaremongering?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

Great time to urge people to write to their MP, TS.

Its the only time people won't make some bull**** excuse about being "too busy". Write it now, post it later.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Cause for that brief moment it gives them a common goal..not everyone, but st least some.

Well, at least you're acknowledging the clapping is for the person doing the clapping and no one else.