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Old 16-04-2020, 11:30 AM   #1
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Default Sir Keir Starmer & his Labour Party

The New Labour Leader
wasted yesterday and day before
demanding the Government tell him the Exit plan
to Covid 19.

He went on Every TV news and radio
wasting our time.

From NewsnightHD bbc2
last night
its been confirmed the Government
has no plans to talk to the Labour Leader on this.

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Old 16-04-2020, 11:50 AM   #2
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I did not know about this looks like he watsted your time only I been watching Netflix and sky
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Old 16-04-2020, 11:52 AM   #3
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The New Labour Leader

wasted yesterday and day before

demanding the Government tell him the Exit plan

to Covid 19.



He went on Every TV news and radio

wasting our time.



From NewsnightHD bbc2

last night

its been confirmed the Government

has no plans to talk to the Labour Leader on this.


Heís lost all credibility in my humble opinion - thatís after such a promising campaign and start to his leadership

I had very high hopes for him but sadly heís just like all the other politicians.

Donít even get me started on Jonathan Ashworth who is a complete and utter imbecile


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Old 16-04-2020, 12:58 PM   #4
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When he was first elected he said he wanted to work together with the government and jointly end the emergency and swiftly as possible. I thought, well, that's good to hear. Since then, every time I've seen him he's been moaning about the government.
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Old 16-04-2020, 01:19 PM   #5
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When he was first elected he said he wanted to work together with the government and jointly end the emergency and swiftly as possible. I thought, well, that's good to hear. Since then, every time I've seen him he's been moaning about the government.


Thatís exactly my take on things.


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When he was first elected he said he wanted to work together with the government and jointly end the emergency and swiftly as possible. I thought, well, that's good to hear. Since then, every time I've seen him he's been moaning about the government.
Yes he is going the wrong way about it.
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Old 16-04-2020, 01:39 PM   #7
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When he was first elected he said he wanted to work together with the government and jointly end the emergency and swiftly as possible. I thought, well, that's good to hear. Since then, every time I've seen him he's been moaning about the government.
yes very disappointing, given people still seem to be trying to get their head around lock down, I heard some chap on the radio yesterday asking how long he could go out and exercise for like use your common sense, and given we are heading for at least 3 more weeks of lockdown, to start talking about an exit strategy now would confuse the thickos I am afraid.

KFC, Burger King, and Pret are opening for deliveries today, so that is part of an exit strategy but it doesn't need trumpeting....ITS AN EXIT STRATEGY..

He needs to start reading the public mood, until the death rate is significantly lower the public do not want schools open etc
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Old 16-04-2020, 02:40 PM   #8
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we are in an ideal position to watch how other countries deal with the exit strategy and its success or otherwise. Why would we commit to anything until we are actually about to do it
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we are in an ideal position to watch how other countries deal with the exit strategy and its success or otherwise. Why would we commit to anything until we are actually about to do it
That's a very good point, Bots.
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If we had done that with the spread then potentially we wouldn't be in the position we are?
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yes very disappointing, given people still seem to be trying to get their head around lock down, I heard some chap on the radio yesterday asking how long he could go out and exercise for like use your common sense, and given we are heading for at least 3 more weeks of lockdown, to start talking about an exit strategy now would confuse the thickos I am afraid.

KFC, Burger King, and Pret are opening for deliveries today, so that is part of an exit strategy but it doesn't need trumpeting....ITS AN EXIT STRATEGY..

He needs to start reading the public mood, until the death rate is significantly lower the public do not want schools open etc


Uk deaths 200 UP on yesterday.


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yes because of the long weekend ...
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Sorry for sounding clicbaity but these figures are terrifing

The number of death registrations involving the coronavirus (COVID-19) increased from 539 in Week 13 to 3,475 in Week 14. The number of deaths mentioning “Influenza and Pneumonia” on the death certificate increased from 1,863 in Week 13 to 2,367 in Week 14. Out of the deaths mentioning “Influenza and Pneumonia” in Week 14, 1,466 also mentioned COVID-19.

In Week 14, 35.7% of all deaths mentioned “Influenza and Pneumonia”, COVID-19, or both. In comparison, for the five-year average, 20.0% of deaths mentioned “Influenza and Pneumonia”. “Influenza and Pneumonia” has been included for comparison, as a well-understood cause of death involving respiratory infection that is likely to have somewhat similar risk factors to COVID-19.



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When he was first elected he said he wanted to work together with the government and jointly end the emergency and swiftly as possible. I thought, well, that's good to hear. Since then, every time I've seen him he's been moaning about the government.
This isn't a war, a joint government is a horrible idea, there needs to be some form of opposition to challenge the government
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Of course work with the govt moving forward on how best to manage the economy and recovery, but there's no reason not to challenge the initial response as it was seriously lacking.
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Of course work with the govt moving forward on how best to manage the economy and recovery, but there's no reason not to challenge the initial response as it was seriously lacking.
He isn't doing that, he is asking about an exit strategy, and its far too early for that
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This isn't a war, a joint government is a horrible idea, there needs to be some form of opposition to challenge the government


He and that weasel of a man Jonathan Ashworth are simply undermining the work the government is doing .. theyíre just destabilising things as everyone is wanting to know NOW when the restrictions are gonna be lifted or reduced... nobody can say at this stage .

I wish Boris was available as heíd squash these two in a moment whilst waving todayís death count in front of their faces .


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Of course work with the govt moving forward on how best to manage the economy and recovery, but there's no reason not to challenge the initial response as it was seriously lacking.


We donít know that the initial response was poor .. Sweden are still adamant that their way will be better in the long run .


Everyone is clambering for the restrictions to be reduced yet the countries who did lift the restrictions fairly quickly are currently seeing huge increases in infections/ deaths ..


Itís all up in the air ..




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Hindsight is always 20/20.
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He isn't doing that, he is asking about an exit strategy, and its far too early for that
He has done that, here is a link.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-05/...tify-mistakes/

I've already commented with my thoughts on his demands for exit strategies, it's to create a smoke screen over the sexism and racism allegations imo.
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We donít know that the initial response was poor .. Sweden are still adamant that their way will be better in the long run .


Everyone is clambering for the restrictions to be reduced yet the countries who did lift the restrictions fairly quickly are currently seeing huge increases in infections/ deaths ..


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We do.


Well we donít ..

Nobody will know ANYTHING for sure until itís all over with and the investigations are done .

Maybe even Sweden had/have the right idea after all ..


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[Sir Keir wrote: “And let’s be honest, serious mistakes have been made."]

Sure
but can he not help out
in a better way?

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This isn't a war, a joint government is a horrible idea, there needs to be some form of opposition to challenge the government

Of Course
So long as its not just to get onto the news?
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Well we donít ..

Nobody will know ANYTHING for sure until itís all over with and the investigations are done .

Maybe even Sweden had/have the right idea after all ..


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We do, we went against WHO advise of test, test, test and we had Italy as a benchmark, boris also continued to ignore his own advice of social distancing and not shaking hands and it almost killed him. ..Whichever way you look at it we failed.
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