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08-04-2021, 01:52 PM | #401 | ||
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Nothing is stopping the tories anyway. We're a nation of bootlicking doormats that love to be treated badly by them and nothing's gonna change that.
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08-04-2021, 01:55 PM | #402 | |||
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08-04-2021, 01:59 PM | #403 | ||
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Nah, Boris can do no wrong in the eyes of Tory voters. I know so many people that are sympathetic to him and act like he's doing his best and that's okay when it's not. We've basically become a one party system at this point, and things will only ever change when the public grow tired of being treated like ****, but they won't. They're prefer the boot on their necks as long as it belongs to Boris.
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08-04-2021, 02:01 PM | #404 | |||
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He will get a chance if he starts acting like the leader of an opposition supposedly on the left. I don't want to hear about putting more police on the streets, I want to hear how he will reduce income inequality, the need for foodbanks etc. He wont out tory the tories, so it's pointless. If, however, he does make proportional rep a big issue, then that would be at least be a start.
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08-04-2021, 02:04 PM | #405 | |||
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08-04-2021, 02:05 PM | #406 | ||
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08-04-2021, 02:14 PM | #407 | |||
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Its the Pandemic in the way. |
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08-04-2021, 02:18 PM | #408 | |||
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Not sure how that could even be remotely true.
KS - Boris you were warned about putting a border in the Irish sea, you said you would never do it, you did it and now the troubles are starting up again, so this is on you. Simplistic - but a quick point. The pandemic is one of the reasons we needed an effective opposition, it shouldn't have been an excuse not to provide one at all.
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08-04-2021, 02:47 PM | #409 | ||
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I'm disappointed with the level of intensity of opposition being near non existent. The vaccines aside at present. There's very little to have supported this government on and a great deal which should be highlighted more by the opposition, as to the dangerous wrongs this government has managed to get away with. So far that is. Even too, the Lib Dems seem wary of criticising the government too. I'm really disappointed myself re Starmer actually at present and I fear he's got more negativity to come when the series of elections are held in May. |
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08-04-2021, 04:11 PM | #410 | |||
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08-04-2021, 04:35 PM | #411 | ||
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08-04-2021, 05:25 PM | #412 | |||
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https://order-order.com/2021/04/08/l...s-on-logo-use/
[When Vote Leave plastered the NHS’s logo on the side of the infamous campaign bus, there was outrage from almost everyone on the left of the political spectrum. Labour’s then Shadow Health Secretary, Heidi Alexander, was quick to jump onto the big red outrage bus, going as far as writing a letter to NHS England’s Chief Executive Simon Stevens urging him to make a “clear statement” distancing the public service from the campaign. How times change. Throughout last night’s party political broadcast Keir Starmer tried to make the association that a vote for Labour was a “vote for our NHS”. Labour diligently reminded listeners of this fact by flashing the NHS’s official logo on screen no less than twelve times to drive the message home subliminally. Naughty…] |
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08-04-2021, 06:17 PM | #413 | ||
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I really believe myself Labour would near walk or certainly win the next election, IF, and if it was brave enough to, endorse as policy PR in elections from elections post 2024 onwards.
The Cons would be driven into panic, however it's one policy they'd never even want to steal. Because they would then know, never again would there be a majority Con government, certainly not when only taking 43% of the votes cast. I hoped Starmer would come round to that. Maybe he yet will. This minority of votes cast for one Party resulting in high overall majorities so said Party can ride over all other voters is obscene as a democracy. As it was in 2005 when Labour with only around 35% of the votes cast got a 58 overall majority then too. Really obscene and as far from real representative democracy as can be reached in my view. |
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11-04-2021, 12:06 PM | #414 | |||
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Last edited by arista; 11-04-2021 at 12:32 PM. |
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11-04-2021, 05:13 PM | #415 | |||
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Keir Starmer is the biggest joke in UK politics. I wouldn't vote for him in a million years. His main problem is that he is empty headed. He doesn't have an original thought or policy.
He only says what he thinks people wants him to say. He looks stupid. He sounds very stupid. I always switch him off the radio and TV. Can't stand the dope. |
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14-04-2021, 01:16 PM | #416 | |||
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Today At PMQ's Starmer Demands a Vote on Sleaze of David Cameron. Lobbying Investigation Live in Parliament now Last edited by arista; 14-04-2021 at 03:20 PM. |
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14-04-2021, 03:08 PM | #417 | |||
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Parliament
Labour Motion Vote expected in 3 mins |
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14-04-2021, 03:16 PM | #418 | |||
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262 Ayes
357 Noes Majority 95 Labour Plan Rejected |
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14-04-2021, 03:19 PM | #419 | ||
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14-04-2021, 03:21 PM | #420 | |||
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Yes the Numbers. Blame Corybn 2019 General Election. Last edited by arista; 14-04-2021 at 03:22 PM. |
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14-04-2021, 03:23 PM | #421 | |||
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labour were never going to win that vote
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14-04-2021, 03:26 PM | #422 | ||
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Partly. However I blame the Con MPs, they were never going to vote for more scrutiny on the issue. Sadly most of their voters,( in my view), will not even bother to consider that. Last edited by joeysteele; 14-04-2021 at 03:26 PM. |
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14-04-2021, 03:29 PM | #423 | |||
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i remember all to clearly the amount of dodgy deals that Tony Blair and his batch of mp's got up to, so although its in the past now, they were as guilty even perhaps more so than anyone else. The reason labour are complaining is because they have been out of power for so long they haven't been able to exploit it themselves in recent times
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14-04-2021, 04:12 PM | #424 | |||
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Rachel Reeves Labour MP
is happy now The Treasury Committee announced will Drag Cameron in and Sunak. SkyNewsHD Live The Prime Minister will be Angry. Last edited by arista; 14-04-2021 at 04:12 PM. |
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14-04-2021, 05:02 PM | #425 | |||
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It’s just as I said previously.. politics / politicians have been corrupt as long as I can recall ...that’s back to Harold Wilson and his cronies Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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