[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the important thing is to not have the 28b a manifesto item at the next election. The tories have u turned on just as many items as labour, they even u turned on leader twice

I don't think labour have anything to worry about on that front

Why is that the important thing?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Why is that the important thing?

because you don't want to make the poor poorer in the name of green, which is what has been happening

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

because you don't want to make the poor poorer in the name of green, which is what has been happening

What?

So is it about the £28b not being on the manifesto, or is it the fact it's for "green" things that's the issue?

I'm not sure how to break this to you, but hurting the poorest in society is now, and has always been, a political choice. It's never been a necessity. There is more than enough to go round for everyone to live extremely comfortably.

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Labour's decision to scrap a pledge to
spend £28bn a year on green investment
if it wins the next election.
The Financial Times says the change is part
of an attempt to
"draw a line under a political dispute over
how much [the] party would borrow
if it returned to power".
It adds that party leader Sir Keir Starmer
sought to pin the blame for the U-turn
on financial constraints following
Liz Truss's premiership in 2022,
quoting him saying that "as conditions change,
you adjust your position".]

[arista]

[arista]

A Mature Lady
phones LBC Live, just now

A Labour Loyalist for many years
will not back Starmer.

Because of his Gaza views

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Labour has been condemned by Jewish groups
for standing by a candidate who claimed
Israel "deliberately allowed" the
7 October massacre, the Daily Mail reports]

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The Guardian reports that Keir Starmer
is facing a fresh test of his authority as
MPs prepare to vote on a
second parliamentary motion calling
for an "immediate" ceasefire in Gaza next week.
The Labour leader and his officials will
spend the next few days deciding how
to handle a Scottish National Party motion
on the Middle East crisis, after the party's
abstention on a similar vote in November
triggered a "huge split" in the party and
10 front-bench resignations, the paper adds.]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

because you don't want to make the poor poorer in the name of green, which is what has been happening

A lack of investment in "green" will hurt everyone, and I don't trust any current politician that the money would otherwise go toward helping the poor.

[bitontheslide]

People don't seem to realise that it is the people who can least afford it, end up paying for everything. So if the government say, we need to invest in green, it is the poor that pay for it. It is not pals of the government, they profit from it.

Who won all the contracts during covid? The pals of the government. Who ended up paying for it? The poor. Who couldn't get urgent hospital treatment because of the covid generated waiting lists? The poor


I don't know how anyone can remain so naive after all that in the last couple of years

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

A lack of investment in "green" will hurt everyone, and I don't trust any current politician that the money would otherwise go toward helping the poor.

Yes Starmer is ditching it
as HE must get in power.


Its Pathetic

[arista]

Starmer is now in Munich


Munich Security Conference

He is talking like he is the PM?

Speaking on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Reports that Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer
has warned of the security "risks" of
"bad faith politics", in what the paper
suggests is a "barely-concealed rebuke"
aimed at Donald Trump over his recent
comments about NATO.]

[arista]

[arista]

Scottish Labour backs the SNP motion
on the Gaza Cease-Fire.

Starmer does not

So a split this week on the vote.

[arista]

Starmer Now Live Glasgow


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD


His Mantra is rolling on

National Renewal his key 2 words

And

Working People his other key words

[arista]

He just said "we must win"


Yes in Scotland he has to take many eats from
the sad SNP

[arista]

Starmers GB Engery company
is based in Scotland.

[arista]

BBCnewsHD went over the Hour
but as Starmer was concluding Live

The pathetic BBC Paused him
and then moved on

[arista]

[Sir Keir Starmer calls for Gaza 'ceasefire that lasts']

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68331322

[arista]

[Oliver_W]

"Labour aren't going to steal from pensioners" shouldn't be front page news.

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[The paper says that Labour leader
Sir Keir Starmer is facing a potential
rebellion from his backbenchers despite
his recent call for a ceasefire - a change
in his position.]

[Gusto Brunt]

Just saw GB news, 'Keir Starmer rubbing his hands with glee', and then I saw David Lammy.

Apparently the Speaker is in deep trouble

[Zizu]

Sooooo it seems that snow-white Starmer isn’t so perfect after all …


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