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Old 01-05-2020, 04:28 PM #1
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The government has changed the way it is counting the number of covid-19 tests carried out in a bid to hit its target of 100,000 tests per day by the end of April, HSJ can reveal.

Previously, a test would be counted once the sample had been processed in laboratories. But this definition has been changed in the last few days, a senior source told HSJ.

The Department of Health and Social Care is now including tests that have been posted or delivered to people’s homes in its figures. This means tests which are sent to people are counted before the recipient has provided and returned their sample to a laboratory.

HSJ understands that up to 50,000 of the tests that will be reported as having taken place on 30 April will actually represent the mailing or the agreeing to mail a home testing kit.

In the last seven days (23-30 April) the number of tests reported by the government rose from 23,560 to 81,611.

The source told HSJ that work to achieve the 100,000 tests per day had been “manic” and that the health and social care secretary Matt Hancock was “obsessed” with reaching the target. “They are trying every trick in the book,” the source said.

“They had to get the permanent secretary at DHSC (Chris Wormald) to agree to a change in the counting process.

“We’re now counting a home test as tests which have been sent to people’s homes.”

Testing for covid-19 has been predominantly carried out under two of Mr Hancock’s five “pillars”, within the government’s testing strategy.

These are tests at laboratories run by Public Health England and NHS hospitals (Pillar One) and swab tests at dozens of community sites across the UK (Pillar Two), with the latter including the posting of home testing kits and deliveries by companies such as Amazon.

HSJ understands around 27,000 home tests were posted to people yesterday as part of pillar two work. They will form part of today’s testing figures which are yet to be published.

HSJ’s source said: “The view is that is unsustainable. It was just a massive one-day mission on the part of Amazon and the Royal Mail”.

HSJ understands the number of home test kits that have been returned by Amazon this week is about one one third of the number posted.

Meanwhile, the government has recently announced two testing programmes under Pillar Four, which will eventually include hundreds of thousands of people.

One of the programmes, announced on Wednesday and led by Imperial College, Imperial College Health Healthcare Trust and polling company Ipsos Mori, will see 100,000 home testing kits sent to people across the country.

HSJ understands around 25,000 home testing kits were posted to people yesterday through this scheme. On Wednesday, only 1,150 tests under Pillar Four had been carried out.

The other Pillar Four programme, announced on 23 April, aims to track coronavirus in the general population and is led by the DHSC and Office for National Statistics, with the help of University of Oxford, data science company IQVIA UK and the National Biosample Centre in Milton Keynes.

Testing figures for yesterday will be announced later today
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So we cant count home testing being labour supporters dont want it to be counted
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‘Trust us’ they say
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Also why are the left expecting people with symptoms to leave their homes get on public transport to go to a testing centre
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So we cant cont hope testing being labour supporters dont want it to be counted
Do you ever proof read your posts? Half of them never make sense

Not too sure why you’re trying to clock me when yet again the government bend the rules to make themselves look better
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Home testing is an important part of testing
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So we cant cont hope testing being labour supporters dont want it to be counted
If I say that I’m going to beat Mike Tyson, it can’t just be counted as a dub for me without me actually beating him can it?

Counting a verbal promise as an action taken is purposely misleading and deceitful
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You cant expect people to go if they are ill or unable to get there or simply have work at that time
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If I say that I’m going to beat Mike Tyson, it can’t just be counted as a dub for me without me actually beating him can it?

Counting a verbal promise as an action taken is purposely misleading and deceitful
Only if labour supporters agree, apparently.
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You cant expect people to go if they are ill or unable to get there or simply have work at that time
Of course not, but the government shouldn’t count them as being tested when they haven’t been, to make themselves look good
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Only if labour supporters agree, apparently.
‘Don’t make this political!!’
‘God, Labour supporters wanting people to die, disgusting! Corbyn’s fault!’
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Labour supporters will never being happy despite benefitting more from this then they would under labour
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Labour supporters will never being happy despite benefitting more from this then they would under labour
This is nothing to do with labour stick the topic at hand and stop trying to cause an argument
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I think most people will be happy when the government stops playing with people’s lives tbh
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Home testing is an important part of testing
It is, but sending 40,000 tests in the post is not the same as those tests being carried out on the same day
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This. Is. Insane.
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So many contributors to this thread are purely being political. That tells me that the government are doing a good job because people don't seem to give a crap about the virus anymore and are only interested in bashing the government
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So many contributors to this thread are purely being political. That tells me that the government are doing a good job because people don't seem to give a crap about the virus anymore and are only interested in bashing the government
Sums it up nicely.
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The government is doing a good job... because people are criticising their behaviour? That’s a wild take
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So many contributors to this thread are purely being political. That tells me that the government are doing a good job because people don't seem to give a crap about the virus anymore and are only interested in bashing the government
Think you’ll find it’s just Adam
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The government is doing a good job... because people are criticising their behaviour? That’s a wild take
Definitely a wild take, you see people in the UK moaning and laughing at how North Korean's worship their government like some god and ridicule those who dare question them. However we've been developing the same principles here any question of their action is responded by "HOw DAre YOu QUeStion THem" "They're doing the best they can"

The government shouldn't be doing the best they can that's what you say to school children who are trying to achieve a good grade. A government's job is to do whatever is in the public interest for health and safety and do that to the highest standard.
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Definitely a wild take, you see people in the UK moaning and laughing at how North Korean's worship their government like some god and ridicule those who dare question them. However we've been developing the same principles here any question of their action is responded by "HOw DAre YOu QUeStion THem" "They're doing the best they can"

The government shouldn't be doing the best they can that's what you say to school children who are trying to achieve a good grade. A government's job is to do whatever is in the public interest for health and safety and do that to the highest standard.
North Koreans dont worship their government at all

If they disagreed with anything they would have a bullet in the head for the trouble
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Can always count on Adam for a laugh.
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So many contributors to this thread are purely being political. That tells me that the government are doing a good job because people don't seem to give a crap about the virus anymore and are only interested in bashing the government
Only one (Adam) has brought politics into the thread.
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