[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Owning those lazy Europeans again and again. Rule Britannia. Just wait till we're forced out on a no deal at the end of the year to exacerbate our economic woes.

You say that like every country in the EU is filthy rich when in reality almost all are poor countries

[Tom4784]

Convincing yourself that other countries have it worse won't help with the problems we have. It's just a distraction tactic really.

[Kizzy]

ONS are said to be the gold standard for this kind of information, if it's an uncomfortable read that's unfortunate, the govt themselves rely on them to reflect social trends.
It's laughable to suggest that the data is skewed as EU countries don't even share variables... there are as many vulnerable groups in every country as here.

[Denver]

I dont understand what the government is getting from inflating the covid deaths unless they plan on suing China, I saw a post from someone saying her dad did not have it and died from Lung Cancer but put his death down as Covid

[LeatherTrumpet]

One of the main reasons why places like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc have relatively low figures is because they are poor at reporting and registering deaths as covid

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

One of the main reasons why places like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc have relatively low figures is because they are poor at reporting and registering deaths as covid

Countries are either under reporting or over reporting , I dont think we will ever know the true total for any country

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

One of the main reasons why places like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc have relatively low figures is because they are poor at reporting and registering deaths as covid

Well they’re not in Europe and their infrastructure/healthcare system is nothing like our own so it seems odd to even think of comparing the two

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

I dont understand what the government is getting from inflating the covid deaths unless they plan on suing China, I saw a post from someone saying her dad did not have it and died from Lung Cancer but put his death down as Covid

That would not be the cause of death that would be organ failure, if he also had covid 19 that would be mentioned on the death certificate.
Cancer kills people in years months and weeks, covid 19 kills in days...it has to be recorded as a contributory factor.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Convincing yourself that other countries have it worse won't help with the problems we have. It's just a distraction tactic really.

Literally

It’s like people on the Poseidon looking at the Titanic and saying “I’m glad I’m not on that ship”

[bitontheslide]

i wish people would just stop counting the numbers of dead. The measurement means nothing. That's not being callous, it would be just as accurate to count the stars in the sky in each country

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That would not be the cause of death that would be organ failure, if he also had covid 19 that would be mentioned on the death certificate.
Cancer kills people in years months and weeks, covid 19 kills in days...it has to be recorded as a contributory factor.

She said he was tested negative yet it was the reason on his death certificate

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i wish people would just stop counting the numbers of dead. The measurement means nothing. That's not being callous, it would be just as accurate to count the stars in the sky in each country

True, it's the number of infected that really matter but it's still a bad figure to have considering how much warning our government had in advance and such.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Literally

It’s like people on the Poseidon looking at the Titanic and saying “I’m glad I’m not on that ship”

A lot of people hate Kate Winslet to be fair

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

You say that like every country in the EU is filthy rich when in reality almost all are poor countries

The government spent 100m on no-deal propaganda because they know the impacts of a no-deal will lead to many deaths on it's own, which is why they stockpilied body bags as part of the previous preparation, now add a no deal on to a global pandemic where financially we're going to be (i'll be less sensationalist) struggling, and we're purposefully hurting ourselves even more than we naturally will be.

the Eu will have each other to work with to try and get themselves out of it, we won't because our gove are against things like the human rights act.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Owning those lazy Europeans again and again. Rule Britannia. Just wait till we're forced out on a no deal at the end of the year to exacerbate our economic woes.

How dare you the Republic is counting care homes

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How dare you the Republic is counting care homes

Only so they know how many bombs they'll need to manufacture.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Only so they know how many bombs they'll need to manufacture.

I will keep you posted, Niamh has the real numbers

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i wish people would just stop counting the numbers of dead. The measurement means nothing. That's not being callous, it would be just as accurate to count the stars in the sky in each country

How do you suggest we record the spread of the virus in Europe then?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

She said he was tested negative yet it was the reason on his death certificate

If it was negative there would be no mention of Covid 19 on the death certificate.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If it was negative there would be no mention of Covid 19 on the death certificate.

No they are putting it down on hundreds of death certificate the same as with care homes they are not interested in anything but covid deaths

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

No they are putting it down on hundreds of death certificate the same as with care homes they are not interested in anything but covid deaths

This is pure misinformation ..nobody is falsifying death certificates.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This is pure misinformation ..nobody is falsifying death certificates.

So hundreds of people are just making it up?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

So hundreds of people are just making it up?

So hundreds of doctors are making up causes of death?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So hundreds of doctors are making up causes of death?

If they dont give a cause of death they have to have an autopsy and they dont have the facilities to deal with thousands of autopsies

[Denver]

It's like you actually think covid is the only possible cause of death since march