[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

Originally Posted by Denver

So with this whole debacle of how death's are count are they going to change the totals? I think we all knew they exaggerated the deaths and counted ones they shouldn't have

Yes could well be.

[arista]

[Scotland Coronavirus: Outbreak investigated at
Motherwell contact tracing centre]

[6 people have tested positive for coronavirus
in an outbreak at an NHS England test
and trace call centre in North Lanarkshire.
Sitel, which carries out contact tracing
for the NHS, said it was aware
of a "local outbreak" at its Motherwell site.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-west-53465160

[Ammi]

Patients without medical conditions ask GPs for sick notes to exempt them from mask rules...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/patients-w...142923641.html

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes could well be.

Sorry but the cynic in me thinks is just an exercise to massage figures another way to suit the government.

I'll stick more with what the ONS say rather than trust Johnson and co.
On just about anything.
They've been looking more closely at the figures long before Johnson etc; wanted a new look at them.

[Nicky91]

No EU deal after nightly long discussion

Netherlands, and our PM Mark Rutte still won't give in to the terms and conditions, so negotiating goes on

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...re-says-rutte/

that one was not a good move from Rutte, other EU leaders were kinda laughing at us

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/0...re-says-rutte/

that one was not a good move from Rutte, other EU leaders were kinda laughing at us

Oi, we're the most laughed at European country, stop trying to steal our thunder.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Oi, we're the most laughed at European country, stop trying to steal our thunder.

yeah well, we just should accept that deal already, this aid package is important for certain countries like Spain, Italy, Croatia

but i hope they finally get to an agreement, and otherwise this is enough proof we gotta get rid of Rutte here, next elections

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Oi, we're the most laughed at European country, stop trying to steal our thunder.

But with the UK out of the EU, there's a brand new opening for a new EU schlemiel . It has to be someone...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But with the UK out of the EU, there's a brand new opening for a new EU schlemiel . It has to be someone...

yeah so, we all know Rutte is not as strong and stable as leader compared to a Macron, Merkel

PVDA (Labour) in power would be better for our relations with EU, given their Frans Timmermans already has good contacts with Miss Ursula von der leyen, and i see Asscher still slowly improving as the party's leader, i mean they were the biggest party here last EU elections also

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yeah so, we all know Rutte is not as strong and stable as leader compared to a Macron, Merkel

PVDA (Labour) in power would be better for our relations with EU, given their Frans Timmermans already has good contacts with Miss Ursula von der leyen, and i see Asscher still slowly improving as the party's leader, i mean they were the biggest party here last EU elections also

Perched for Nexit

[bitontheslide]

the EU are somewhat stuffed now because they lost one of the 3 net contributors, now they need to collect a wad of cash and the others are saying ...."we need to give money in?" no no .. we only take money out

[bitontheslide]

The first results of the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford are expected today.

They will be the results of the “phase one” study involving around 1,000 volunteers. These are the earliest type of clinical trial in people.

Their primary purpose is to ensure the vaccine is safe enough to give to more people.

But we may also get insight into the type of immune response provoked by the jab – does it lead to the production of antibodies or stimulate other parts of the immune system?

What we won’t find out today is whether the vaccine “works” – can it stop you getting infected or at least lessen symptoms?

That will require trials involving far more people and in countries where there is far more coronavirus going around than there is currently in the UK.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the EU are somewhat stuffed now because they lost one of the 3 net contributors, now they need to collect a wad of cash and the others are saying ...."we need to give money in?" no no .. we only take money out

Very selfishly... if Scotland has no choice but to be dragged out of the EU by the rUK, then I'm sort of hoping the EU collapses completely so that we can join whatever replacement Eurpoean market springs up in its place . "Hi guys... sorry we wrecked your thing... wanna make a new thing?"

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Very selfishly... if Scotland has no choice but to be dragged out of the EU by the rUK, then I'm sort of hoping the EU collapses completely so that we can join whatever replacement Eurpoean market springs up in its place . "Hi guys... sorry we wrecked your thing... wanna make a new thing?"

it's like buying a company that has gone bust

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Perched for Nexit

not me, i am very much still pro eu

[Kizzy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53469839

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The first results of the vaccine developed by the University of Oxford are expected today.



They will be the results of the “phase one” study involving around 1,000 volunteers. These are the earliest type of clinical trial in people.



Their primary purpose is to ensure the vaccine is safe enough to give to more people.



But we may also get insight into the type of immune response provoked by the jab – does it lead to the production of antibodies or stimulate other parts of the immune system?



What we won’t find out today is whether the vaccine “works” – can it stop you getting infected or at least lessen symptoms?



That will require trials involving far more people and in countries where there is far more coronavirus going around than there is currently in the UK.

Sky News just saying that it looks to be safe APART from the side effects that will probably need to be treated with Paracetamol !!

Suggesting the side effects are headaches

I’ve been plagued by headaches all my life so this isn’t great to hear


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[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Sky News just saying that it looks to be safe APART from the side effects that will probably need to be treated with Paracetamol !!

Suggesting the side effects are headaches

I’ve been plagued by headaches all my life so this isn’t great to hear


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Do they actually say headaches? Because one of the primary properties of paracetamol is that it's an antipyretic (it brings down a fever) - mild fever is a pretty common vaccination side effect so it's maybe more likely they're referring to that. Muscle stiffness at the vaccination site too (if it's a needle-vax).

I'm prone to headaches and the very occasional migraine too, so as an aside, I would strongly recommend using ibuprofen or a codeine-based painkiller (or a combination of the two) for headaches rather than paracetamol. Makes a huge difference. Just don't get hooked on the codeine .

[bitontheslide]

just about any medicine has headache listed as a side effect. At this early stage they really dont know side effects. It takes 100s of thousands of people to build an accurate picture of side effects and how severe they are

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Do they actually say headaches? Because one of the primary properties of paracetamol is that it's an antipyretic (it brings down a fever) - mild fever is a pretty common vaccination side effect so it's maybe more likely they're referring to that. Muscle stiffness at the vaccination site too (if it's a needle-vax).



I'm prone to headaches and the very occasional migraine too, so as an aside, I would strongly recommend using ibuprofen or a codeine-based painkiller (or a combination of the two) for headaches rather than paracetamol. Makes a huge difference. Just don't get hooked on the codeine .

No they didn’t specify headaches..just me jumping the gun .


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[Cherie]

I mean they tweak the flu vaccine every year with God knows what but no one bats an eyelid, I recall a swine flu vaccine being rolled out very soon after that pandemic started