[arista]

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The reason we were given in March for locking down was to protect the NHS and give them time to ready themselves as PPE was a shambles, no ventilators and no beds



Now allegedly we have all the PPE required, we have the ventilators and we have the Nightengales, so what is the reason for a lockdown which will not be observed at this stage and people will gather in homes

Nah, the extra time that was bought was wasted; we're still nowhere close to being in a position to stop the NHS being overwhelmed. Even if we did have abundant PPE, ventilators and beds (we don't, but if we did) ... We simply don't have the staff. It's not just about redistributing and shuffling people around, ICU staff have specific skills and training, you can't just ship in a doctor from gastroenterology and a couple of nurses from oncology and expect them to be able to staff an ICU bed.

[Lewismacfarlane]

Someone my close friend knows has been tested so I hope there ok



My gran hasn't had her results back

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hut-WEEKS.html

They should enlarge all their faces and show them on a loop on all the channels in between programs... take footage from town CCTV cameras as well

Shame them all


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[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They should enlarge all their faces and show them on a loop on all the channels in between programs... take footage from town CCTV cameras as well

Shame them all


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yup, shame these superspreaders

[bitontheslide]

my area has among the lowest rates of infection in the country, it doesn't need a lockdown and there are loads of places in a similar situation. Hotspots should be locked down, fair enough, but we don't need a nationwide lockdown at all. Why would I follow stricter restrictions when they are obviously not needed in my area

Even the infection rate doesn't matter, it can be as high as you like provided it doesn't translate into hospital admissions, that's the reason liverpool are now in the 3rd tier

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

my area has among the lowest rates of infection in the country, it doesn't need a lockdown and there are loads of places in a similar situation. Hotspots should be locked down, fair enough, but we don't need a nationwide lockdown at all.



Even the infection rate doesn't matter, it can be as high as you like provided it doesn't translate into hospital admissions, that's the reason liverpool are now in the 3rd tier

Makes you wonder why they don’t just have a lockdown for all the over 50’s and shield them from any contact from others .. plus shield/protect the hospitals and care homes like never before


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[Zizu]

It’s interesting to see that the infection is being driven by the under 30’s and 65% of all the job losses are also under 30’s .


If they don’t care about the over 50’s maybe they’ll take more care as more of them lose their jobs


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[Nicky91]

well i told my mom about that idea, to shield elderly and let young people just do what they want

but she doesn't like that, she just wants everything cancelled, closed until there is a vaccine, well it does not work like that


i think our current new measures especially when the mask requirement will come, will help in bringing numbers down, making people overall more at ease and morale better if everyone wears a mask

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Makes you wonder why they don’t just have a lockdown for all the over 50’s and shield them from any contact from others .. plus shield/protect the hospitals and care homes like never before


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why should over 50's be isolated in areas of low infection, they arent going to catch it if they follow the simple guidelines.

We certainly don't want to enforce shielding like we did in March, it's up to people to make their own choices if they are vulnerable. Every possible shopping service is available to use online where goods are delivered to those isolating. There is just no need to enforce blanket rules at all.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

why should over 50's be isolated in areas of low infection, they arent going to catch it if they follow the simple guidelines.

We certainly don't want to enforce shielding like we did in March, it's up to people to make their own choices if they are vulnerable. Every possible shopping service is available to use online where goods are delivered to those isolating. There is just no need to enforce blanket rules at all.

true, in areas of low infection, simple guidelines can still work

but in that case no need to isolate them, cuz loneliness is also very bad for you mentally, especially older people


i'd say Tier 2, Tier 3 if regions fall under those isolate over 50's and also more vulnerable due to medical condition (some youngsters can be included among them either, asthma etc) that will make numbers of hospitalisations go down, and even better the death numbers

[Vanessa]

I'm not shielding.
I have rent and bills to pay, so I have to work.
I'll just have to be careful instead.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not shielding.
I have rent and bills to pay, so I have to work.
I'll just have to be careful instead.

Yes you are not alone.
Labour's Plan have been Rejected at PMQ's

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

why should over 50's be isolated in areas of low infection, they arent going to catch it if they follow the simple guidelines.



We certainly don't want to enforce shielding like we did in March, it's up to people to make their own choices if they are vulnerable. Every possible shopping service is available to use online where goods are delivered to those isolating. There is just no need to enforce blanket rules at all.

Many over 50’s still have to work and risk catching the virus ..


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[Lewismacfarlane]

My grans tested negative for the virus

[bitontheslide]

good to hear lewis

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

My grans tested negative for the virus

Great news.
Really happy to hear that.
A massive relief for you and your family that.
Thank you for informing us.

[Lewismacfarlane]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Great news.
Really happy to hear that.
A massive relief for you and your family that.
Thank you for informing us.

I'm still waiting to hear from my friend as someone she knows has been tested

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

I'm still waiting to hear from my friend as someone she knows has been tested

What an anxious time for you.

I hope you hear the same news on your friend too Lewis.
Really hope you get more good news.
The stress this vile virus brings is hard.
To even those connected to those important in their lives.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They should enlarge all their faces and show them on a loop on all the channels in between programs... take footage from town CCTV cameras as well

Shame them all


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For doing what? There are 6 of them....they could be students from the same bubble and therefore doing nothing wrong. Why are we shaming them,?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

For doing what? There are 6 of them....they could be students from the same bubble and therefore doing nothing wrong. Why are we shaming them,?

They’re part of the problem , stats and data suggest a huge part .





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[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

7,305 new cases

now 1,475 in hospital, of which 301 on ICU (a increase of 24)

32 new deaths

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They should enlarge all their faces and show them on a loop on all the channels in between programs... take footage from town CCTV cameras as well

Shame them all


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I agree. Except the one on the left and the one on the right. But shame the others to hell.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Zizu

They should enlarge all their faces and show them on a loop on all the channels in between programs... take footage from town CCTV cameras as well

Shame them all


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There’s thousands of people behind, can’t shame everyone

Also they look like students to me, quite likely the 6 live together in the same halls/bubble

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Lewismacfarlane

My grans tested negative for the virus

.....Thats excellent to hear, Lewis...a huge worry lifted for you...