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[Zizu]

Any medics around ??

I see many places testing temps for a quick indication of fever BUT they are testing SKIN temps ( forehead) which is considerably lower ( 3 degrees C / 5 degrees F !) than the normal recognised human temperature ( oral ) ..

I overheard someone after testing some guy’s forehead say “ 35C ... that’s great “ .

Now a skin temp of 35C equates to 95F which seems high for a SKIN temp given the ‘new’ normal body temp taken orally is apparently 97.4F !!!

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[arista]

[Zizu]

Even our accepted ‘normal temps’ of 98.4F or 36.8C are apparently well out of date according to scientists at Harvard and Stanford Unis !!




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[bitontheslide]

the infra red head scan thermometers are notoriously inaccurate.

[Toy Soldier]

They do have to adjust for the type used but they're pretty accurate these days - you should adjust up by 1F (0.6C) - it's definitely not going to be as much as 3C. Yes average skin temperature is much lower but that's why you only use external thermometers on specific parts of the body. So a forehead temp reading 35 is likely to be around 35.6 - and definitely nowhere near 38+ - so it is good. A true reading of 35 wouldn't be great (for them) at all, you'd call that person an ambulance because while they definitely don't have a fever... They ARE teetering on the edge of hypothermia.

However, yes, it's true that internal thermometers (that you put in your mouth or bum'ole) are much more accurate than external. It's not feasible to quickly use those en masse though, for obvious reasons (mouth because of contagion risk, anal because... Well... It's impolite to go around shoving things in people's butts).

But yeah basically anything from 35 - 36.5 is totally fine for a forehead zap. Up to 37 is "OK" but anything over 37 with a forehead scan could easily be over 37.8 (fever) so I would say if you're getting let's say 37.2, then you want to repeat with an internal thermometer to make sure it isn't actually higher.

Tl;Dr with modern forehead thermometers, so long as they're not cheapo ones, 35 is fine or even a little low.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the infra red head scan thermometers are notoriously inaccurate.

We have one of these at work for visitors, the idiots initially attached it to the window in reception and was reading everyone at 32

[bitontheslide]

i have one of those stick in your ear thermometers that are very quick and seems to be very accurate. It also has an outer sleeve that you can ditch after every use

[Strictly Jake]

Listened to do they know its christmas this morning. Take away the fact they are singing about Africa and liken it to todays pandemic its a very chilling song. Pray for the other one thank god its them not you, Outside the bells of doom are ringing etc but its ok because its christmas....Have a listen with that in mind and its a very different song!

Youtube video

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They do have to adjust for the type used but they're pretty accurate these days - you should adjust up by 1F (0.6C) - it's definitely not going to be as much as 3C. Yes average skin temperature is much lower but that's why you only use external thermometers on specific parts of the body. So a forehead temp reading 35 is likely to be around 35.6 - and definitely nowhere near 38+ - so it is good. A true reading of 35 wouldn't be great (for them) at all, you'd call that person an ambulance because while they definitely don't have a fever... They ARE teetering on the edge of hypothermia.

However, yes, it's true that internal thermometers (that you put in your mouth or bum'ole) are much more accurate than external. It's not feasible to quickly use those en masse though, for obvious reasons (mouth because of contagion risk, anal because... Well... It's impolite to go around shoving things in people's butts).

But yeah basically anything from 35 - 36.5 is totally fine for a forehead zap. Up to 37 is "OK" but anything over 37 with a forehead scan could easily be over 37.8 (fever) so I would say if you're getting let's say 37.2, then you want to repeat with an internal thermometer to make sure it isn't actually higher.

Tl;Dr with modern forehead thermometers, so long as they're not cheapo ones, 35 is fine or even a little low.

http://manuals.serverscheck.com/EST-...emperature.pdf




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[arista]

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

It’s a concern that we are into the second wave with maybe a third wave coming in January yet our testing seems to be inept bordering incompetent ..


It seems like such an easy system to set up .. get a good system and replicate if across the whole country .
Maybe we should let the McDonalds management team take control of the testing ..


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[bitontheslide]

the test and trace system only works if people follow the rules and isolate .... and they havent been.

[arista]

Today 696 have Died

Today 18,213 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
16,570

Patients on ventilation
1,489


56,533 Total Death for the UK.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vanessa]

We're going back in lockdown after the New year, aren't we?

[Strictly Jake]

Originally Posted by arista

Today 696 have Died

Today 18,213 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
16,570

Patients on ventilation
1,489


56,533 Total Death for the UK.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Yet everyone is ok to mix in a month?!

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Strictly Jake

Yet everyone is ok to mix in a month?!

I know, it's madness!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

We're going back in lockdown after the New year, aren't we?

I don't understand what the point is in telling people they can spend time with a few family members around Christmas. Things are going to get worse .

[arista]